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Issues with Axys aluminum a-arms

Yesterday a guy broke a spindle on an Axys too. He hit a creek bed which was a hard hit. But maybe with the taller spindle design it has become a weak link. Overall I am in love with the sled, handles great, throttle response is amazing with lots of power. Everyone that has rode it loves it.
 
I got scared and bought two sets of Zbros a-arms for our two sleds....now I'm wondering if I should also upgrade the spindles.....who has a good spindle offering for the Axys?
 
I would like a spindle similar to stock (no offset) with thicker sections. Especially in the lower half.
 
Axys aluminum a-arms

Snapping a spindle scares me a lot more than bending an A-arm.


If you think about everything that could break or fail at any given second while riding a snowmobile a guy would never ride. And if you buy a spare part for everything that could fail when riding no base and 18" of snow you will be one broke azz man.

I have an idea about a "snowmobiling haven". I I'll buy 40 acres and in the summer remove every tree, every rock and every creek bottom. The result will be a nice place to ride even when there is no base and 18" of fresh POW!!!! I will
Only charge the $500 a day per sled. I think that should save all yous Guys a lot of cash. No need to buy 6 sets of arms and spindles.
 
Yesterday a guy broke a spindle on an Axys too. He hit a creek bed which was a hard hit. But maybe with the taller spindle design it has become a weak link. Overall I am in love with the sled, handles great, throttle response is amazing with lots of power. Everyone that has rode it loves it.

Are you talking about tom? If so that shouldn't of broke it.

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Spindles should bend not break unless a very hard impact should they not?
Have bent a spindle but never broke one like i see in these photos.
 
Spindles should bend not break unless a very hard impact should they not?
Have bent a spindle but never broke one like i see in these photos.

I have seen a anodized pro spindle break similar to that but the sled hit a culvert.

I think the encapsulated ball joints make the spindle become the break away point.

On the pro ride the upper ball joints would bend or snap and save other/ more expensive/ harder to carry things.

Alt impact.....
Still the only option out there with a breakaway.
 
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Spindles should bend not break unless a very hard impact should they not?
Have bent a spindle but never broke one like i see in these photos.

Every broken spindle I've seen photos of, is powder coated. Coincidence? Probably not, IMO. I've never been a fan of powder coating any aluminum, especially the high strength heat treated alloys; as the temperature and duration of the bake cycle can be detrimental to it's properties.

Anyone roach a raw aluminum spindle, yet?

Safety wise it would be far preferable for the spindle to bend rather than break.

Even a badly bent spindle should keep the ski attached and prevent that corner of the sled from digging in and launching the rider over the bars before pile driving him / her with the tunnel.
 
Every broken spindle I've seen photos of, is powder coated. Coincidence? Probably not, IMO. I've never been a fan of powder coating any aluminum, especially the high strength heat treated alloys; as the temperature and duration of the bake cycle can be detrimental to it's properties.



Anyone roach a raw aluminum spindle, yet?



Safety wise it would be far preferable for the spindle to bend rather than break.



Even a badly bent spindle should keep the ski attached and prevent that corner of the sled from digging in and launching the rider over the bars before pile driving him / her with the tunnel.


You can't judge a spindle by its color!! That's racist!!
 
Be interesting to see how this all plays out.I seem to have heard a lot of the same things in the early 011 and 012 seasons about the pro's A arms. Why are all the aftermarket arms out there? I have bent two lower arms on my 011 assault and neither hit was hard enough to knock me off the sled, going back and looking both of them were a rock and both dislodged the frozen in rock, so it was a significant hit!
 
Interesting. (Really, I love this new sled even though I have yet to own one.)
Arms bend, so they are upgraded.
Then spindles bent.
If those are upgraded, is it bulkhead time?
Really odd that this wasn't the conversation about the original Pros.
 
Seems IF the powdercoating affected the aluminum it would just make it noodle soft.
As in bend not break.
Just my experience with overheated aluminum.

I ran with a couple guys with p-coated arms yesterday, didn't seem to make a difference. Nobody had any hard hits, nobody bent. We were bouncing (lightly) off rocks and fallen trees all day, it felt like single track moto.
We started to straighten a bent arm in the press, it took more pressure than I would have thought....
 
I wonder how much of this is just early season carnage. Yes A-arms have always bent looking back at history when you hit sh!T really hard. Even my ski-doo bent one and I was lucky enough not to bend the chassis. Of course it was a sno-X sled so it was more reinforced. People just getting anxious to ride I guess.
 
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