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Is the economy turning?

I sure hope things start picking up soon. Our shop just laid off 2 guys here in Edmonton as well as a bunch of guys up in Ft.Mac. So now its just me and another guy pullin' wrenches in the E-town shop. I'm pretty thankful they chose to keep me employed but we'll how that works out in the next three months:eek::(.


Anybody need heavy equipment rentals?
 
I think this can be used to understand that the economy has not hit bottom yet http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/opinion/14Gao.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

On the other hand for those looking to buy a house start checking with the large banks in your area, The smaller banks are not cutting the deals & still trying to get full doller on the foreclosure's the hold. The large non local banks are dumping their foreclosures. A buddy just closed on a 10 year old 3 bedroom 2 bath ranch, 40'x60' finished pole barn, pond w/stream on 3.5 acres & 200' paved drive that went back @ $182k, His closing price was 54k!
For some the economy has bottomed & others it's still coming.
 
Why do you think I have never owned a house? Why do you think I know so little? Why do you think I own a tv? Like most of your comments, they all lack substance and offer no point of view, besides I am dumb..

Let me know when you get something new to say.. I will surely be interested.

Not trying to time the bottom, just hoping the bottom is when I buy. As that is the time frame I will be looking...

So what does your vast experience and knowledge tell you?

and yet you didn't answer a single one of those questions, I'd be proud to claim that I own a house...but I don't, Chase bank (WAMU) owns it. But I'm working toward ownership :)

I got a TV too, but I rarely turn it on anymore. I flip thru channels and everything is garbage filler channels. I'm too cheap to buy pRon channels :D
 
I think this can be used to understand that the economy has not hit bottom yet http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/opinion/14Gao.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

On the other hand for those looking to buy a house start checking with the large banks in your area, The smaller banks are not cutting the deals & still trying to get full doller on the foreclosure's the hold. The large non local banks are dumping their foreclosures. A buddy just closed on a 10 year old 3 bedroom 2 bath ranch, 40'x60' finished pole barn, pond w/stream on 3.5 acres & 200' paved drive that went back @ $182k, His closing price was 54k!
For some the economy has bottomed & others it's still coming.


Time for us to buy "China Gold"?
 
and yet you didn't answer a single one of those questions, i'd be proud to claim that i own a house...but i don't, chase bank (wamu) owns it. But i'm working toward ownership :)

i got a tv too, but i rarely turn it on anymore. I flip thru channels and everything is garbage filler channels. I'm too cheap to buy pron channels :d


lmao!!
 
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It tells me a few things..mostly about you....

You have no experience in what you speak....

You are correct, I was born last night...


Watching 60 minutes does not make you an expert...

I haven't watched 60 minutes in a long long time. I don't have a tv.

You still can't figure out the ratio between spending and inflation..

They is not a simple ratio between the two.


You have no idea what high interest rates does to an economy...

High interest rate makes credit hard to come by, taking money out of the economy slowing it down. It is a method of forcing people to save more, rather then borrow and spend. This happens with business always. It reduces growth. Seems most on here would argue that is what we need.

You don't have any kids...

Yep, no kids..

You have never owned a house..

Yep, I have never been a legal owner of a house.


You have never been married...

Yep, I have never been married..


You have never owned your own business...

Yep, I have never personally been the legal owner of a business..


You still are trying to figure out what "TART" is... that's priceless...

TART is nothing.. well, I heard gravy call you that once. It should have been TARP.. See a bunch of posts below yours were Ollie talked about it.

To sum it up, you don't know what you're talking about most of the time. Debating that fact with you is quite meaningless. You have to have a basic knowledge of simple things...without that, it's a waste of time.. You can see that from your responses.

Correct. I was born yesterday, and know nothing, never talked to any business owners, never talked to home owners, never had a job, I don't know what a marriage is. I don't have any parents and so they didn't teach me anything either.. Compete waste of time, kind of like this response..

Keep posting though... it helps the rest of us when we are deciding if we should spend more money on public schools or private ones...

Will do, thanks for your permission.

So for all these experiences listed above, does that make a person knowledgable enough to talk about social and economic policy for a country?

Is there a difference between macro and micro economics?

Will you ever put your thoughts into a topic or point of discussion besides that I am dumb?

Please, for someone who obviously has experience and knowledge to understand many complex things, I would appreciate your thoughts on the subject.

I quick funny retort will do as well... :beer;
 
"You have no idea what high interest rates does to an economy...

High interest rate makes credit hard to come by, taking money out of the economy slowing it down. It is a method of forcing people to save more, rather then borrow and spend. This happens with business always. It reduces growth. Seems most on here would argue that is what we need."

Ruffy, it is more than just slowing the economy down.
When a company has to pay more for materials because of the lower value of the dollar, those costs get passed on to us. Everything costs more and I mean EVERYTHING.

It is much harder to save money because incomes go down while costs go up.
Personal bankrupcy becomes a common thing. Makes what is happening now seem like a spring walk.
Just wait, you'll see.
 
Ruffy, it is more than just slowing the economy down.
When a company has to pay more for materials because of the lower value of the dollar, those costs get passed on to us. Everything costs more and I mean EVERYTHING.

It is much harder to save money because incomes go down while costs go up.
Personal bankrupcy becomes a common thing. Makes what is happening now seem like a spring walk.
Just wait, you'll see.

Where did the lower value of the dollar come from? Generally an increase in interest rates, contracts the money supply, there for causing deflation.

High interest rates coupled with a large increase in costs, will cause what you are talking about. I believe this was the 70s and they called it stagflation. The cause was high interest rates with a large increase in oil costs. Since the US runs on oil, the cost of everything increased causing the inflation, and the high interest rates caused the stagnation. At least that is how I understand.

What time period are you talking about?
 
Where did the lower value of the dollar come from? Generally an increase in interest rates, contracts the money supply, there for causing deflation.

High interest rates coupled with a large increase in costs, will cause what you are talking about. I believe this was the 70s and they called it stagflation. The cause was high interest rates with a large increase in oil costs. Since the US runs on oil, the cost of everything increased causing the inflation, and the high interest rates caused the stagnation. At least that is how I understand.

What time period are you talking about?

actually .....we all run on and need oil ...muh
 
Where did the lower value of the dollar come from? Generally an increase in interest rates, contracts the money supply, there for causing deflation.

Normally true. However, maybe you remember Obama. The guy is printing money likes it nothing. The value of the US dollar is about to drop like a rock.

High interest rates coupled with a large increase in costs, will cause what you are talking about. I believe this was the 70s and they called it stagflation. The cause was high interest rates with a large increase in oil costs. Since the US runs on oil, the cost of everything increased causing the inflation, and the high interest rates caused the stagnation. At least that is how I understand.

What time period are you talking about?

You are about to see the exact same thing again.
All major oil producing countries want oil to be at least 70 dollars a barrel. Couple that is the devalueation of the US dollar and we are right back where we were in the 70's.
Now if the dems hadn't put a death grip on our ability to produce our own oil we could avoid the worst of it, but Obama and the dem leaders are anti-drill.

Lack of forsight, lack of understanding of history and lack of financial awareness are all combined in the Obamanation currently sitting in the white house. He has zero clue what he is doing or the repurcusions of it.

But you and I will, and very shortly.
 
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So for all these experiences listed above, does that make a person knowledgable enough to talk about social and economic policy for a country?

Is there a difference between macro and micro economics?

Will you ever put your thoughts into a topic or point of discussion besides that I am dumb?

Please, for someone who obviously has experience and knowledge to understand many complex things, I would appreciate your thoughts on the subject.

I quick funny retort will do as well... :beer;


Looks like a copy and paste job... Glad to see you can use Google to find information of what others have done. One day you might know a thing or two......maybe.
 
no WE ALL don't... some people in this world don't... not many, but some..

can't believe that it took you this long to bite .....:Hook Line and Sinker" booyaa !!!

Dear Stupid Democrat ....................


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The economy is turning all right, DOWN. When the tire stores in Wyoming are well staffed, there are no jobs in the oil fields, or any where else either.
 
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