Wolf I couldn't have said it better myself. My dealer sets the price on the sleds I buy from them, I don't haggle them at all. I work retail and ask a lot of questions and they were glad to show me what they paid. I couldn't live on that margin and the stuff I sell doesn't need a forklift to move around. They basically live on the hold back. Run factory oil that they sell in bulk for about half retail price. Even if I paid retail I wouldn't even save $5 a ride buying aftermarket. Not worth the hassle if warranty is ever needed.
Interesting conversation with the Dealer on oil today!!
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I agree with the premise behind your statement 100%, however it would be best to substitute the word "type" with "brand"...........
I enjoy watching these debates over which brand of oil to use, I find it quite amusing...........Some of the debates become quite heated with everyone offering their "2 bits" regardless of their actual knowledge or trainging regarding lubrication.............
As a reliable "rule of thumb" choose the correct type of oil for the application meeting the manufacturers specifications, use the correct amount, & you'll not likely have any issues at all regardless of brand...............There are exceptions to this but they are very, very rare..............
Dominator has great lubricity and stands up to heat better than most, but very low on non-corrosive additives. Good for a mountain sled if you keep moisture out of the motor at all times, rebuild or flip it every year or two. That means storing it in a warm shop when you're not riding it, and not bringing it into the shop stone cold. I ran it for a decade with others, and it's what we learned during rebuilds. That's the interpretation of 'it's for racing'.
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I would like to know why/or how u know that Mobil supplies base materials...I highly doubt you even understand the assemby of a lubricant.
Sorry to get off topic.
As far as the conversation topic. I just picked up my Pro at bristow's and they flat out told me that the whole oil debate is BS and you can use whatever oil you want. So take it for what its worth..
From what I understand the Magnussen/Moss warranty act has no weight when it comes to recreational vehicals. Why do I say that? Well lets see. Manufacturers are telling the consumer if you mod the sled you void the warranty. So if you put a pipe on and you have a fuel pump failure and they know you have a pipe....you're on your own. If you mod your air box by adding a high flow air kit and your rings flake/chip, they can void your warranty.
I think they should have to prove the mod caused the failure but that is only for the auto industry. I would love for somebody to prove me wrong but that is the way I understood it. Really, somebody, please! Anybody here have a law degree and can tell us for sure?
I think they should have to prove the mod caused the failure but that is only for the auto industry. I would love for somebody to prove me wrong but that is the way I understood it. Really, somebody, please! Anybody here have a law degree and can tell us for sure?
Not lawyer but an interesting read http://www.sportrider.com/features/146_0404_magnuson_moss_warranty_act/viewall.html
I never claimed to be a wizard in "the assembly of a lubricant" just like I never claimed you were a wizard at spelling.
That's why I said "I believe" and not "I know for a fact"
Mobile supplying Amsoil with it's base product is something I have heard more than once while in conversation with wholesale distributors for work.
I have to agree with Fourth Wolf. My dealer is 15 miles from my house and if they werent it'd be a 50+ mile one way trip. My dealer dont care about warranty but VES Gold really doesnt seem to stick to the valves that bad. I guess its just really like the color of your pickup, its your personal preferance and what you like to run as long as it meets specs. just my .02
magnassun/moss act has to do with consumer product warranties in the usa..not just vehicles(although there are auto specific parts)....it covers every consumer product sold for personal use.....(the first post I put up top has a link that speaks of what it covers..)
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You want to talk about me not being a "wizard" at spelling? Really? You can't even spell Mobil right! By the way wholesale distributors do not have working knowledge of oil construction. They are distributors. Period. Next time get the facts straight, instead of posting an opinion.
I again apologize for getting off topic, some people can't seem to grasp the original post. As I mentioned in my previous post a large, respectable dealer (bristow's) advised me that using any oil that you would like will not cause any issues, nor will it void the warranty. This is of course providing that you are using an appropriate oil for the application. Someone earlier mentioned oil analysis, this is true the dealers can test and use certain testing, such as FTIR scans to determine you are using a specific oil. According to the mag/moss act, the burden of proof falls on that dealership. The dealership must prove that the oil that was being used cause the malfunction, or failure of that component or piece of equipment.
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You are going to be busy on these forums if you are going to go after everyone who says what they think.
Relax- we are all just wanting to help each other out!
