Intake i am working on

[FLASH1970]

Hello all. I just wanted to share something I have been working on. It's a sheetmetal intake. I'm done getting my basic idea drawn up but I'm sure it'll need some tweaking. I'm probably going to run it through a program called FlowWorks to see what it says about velocity and air flow....I designed the opening for K & N filter number 33-2094 for a Toyota Tercel. The next step is to get all the drawings made with the flat patterns so I can cut out all the pieces. I'll probably do a mock up one out of cardboard or construction paper to make sure it fits and if it does, then it's on to sheetmetal. But, I'm pretty new to welding so it should be interesting. It'll also require me to remove the radiator and get some ice scratchers.

 

[mac900rmk]

Nice looking mock-up.

 

[guidoxpress]

Flash..

thats some excellent work there..similar to the TCP intake with a filter..i am sure you heard a 1000x..but remove the radiator anyways...get some scratchers from SummitSeeker on here..awesome guy and great products.

as you know, you will not be able to use an aftermarket front bumper with a front mounted intake system.

regardless how it comes out..which i am sure it will be awesome...simply creating a product for practical use is highly respectable..and i commend you for that..

 

[Himark]

Better check you angles to the intake tubes. They will not fit with the bulkhead the way you have them drawn. It will be a squared of anti-flow design.

 

[FLASH1970]

guidoexpress- I didn't know anyone made an intake like this. The only ones I know of are the SLP, the Timbersled, and the F'nI one.

Himark- I'm sure I'll need to tweak a few things but at least the idea in on paper so to speak. I really want to avoid having a squared off area between the two throttle body tubes so I'll figure out something.

 

[donbrown]

How will you minimize taking air from the engine conpartment?

 

[FLASH1970]

How will you minimize taking air from the engine conpartment?

The opening is angled down towards the openings in the front of the sled so it should draw air from there. I also thought about putting a piece in between the pipe and intake to close it off from the engine compartment.

 

[guidoxpress]

flash here is the TCP intake i had..to give you an idea of how they had theirs...SLP bought the design and modified it to the now SLP intake you know of..

regardless...you ingenuity is great..good luck on your creation!

 

[Himark]

IMO drawing air from belly and front is not a good idea. It seems snow on deep pow days will always seem to find a way of either entering or restricting good airflow. What about concentrating on pulling air from back of hood or knee bolster area?

 

[FLASH1970]

IMO drawing air from belly and front is not a good idea. It seems snow on deep pow days will always seem to find a way of either entering or restricting good airflow. What about concentrating on pulling air from back of hood or knee bolster area?

99% of my riding is on trails so I'm not worried about sucking in snow in deep powder. I already have fine mesh covers on the front openings to keep any snow out of there. I don't want to pull air from the back of the hood and have it travel all through the engine bay. The intake would get heated and all the weight from having the big intake would kind of defeat what I am trying to do.

guidoexpress, thanks for the pic. I have never seen that intake before. It looks complex and restrictive. Kind of like what mine looks like, but different. I am trying to avoid the flat spot between the 2 throttle body openings and minimize angles. If I can have it tapered and smooth flowing how mine is I think air flow will be greatly improved.

 

[jafraune]

i like the idea of designing a new intake....

Heres my idea....

If there was an intake that was real similar to the timbersled one...except that instead of just have a air filter housing under the hood (the main problem with this design)...it could be vented outside...kind of look like a turbo want to be with a hole in your hood...or you could just have a vent there...it would be light weight, get cold fresh air, and get rid of a lot of underhood stuff. the only problem I see is getting it to fit well when opening and closing the hood. there would have to be some kind of nice seal in order for it to work...

 

[rodw7c]

Ja,
I like this idea if you get something built let me know I would be interested.
Thanks, Rod

 

[Dogmeat]

I think it's cool you're messing with this type of thing, BUT ...

It won't work with any of the after-market bumpers, which quite a few people have been installing latley ....

 

[HUNDO]

Here's the one I'm running...part Honda Civic, part VW GTI, part Timbersled. The filter sits right behind the left hood vent and works much better than the Timbersled...doesn't seem to suck the hot vapor like when the filter was down right next to the exhaust. Kinda like what you are talking about jafraune...only different

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[FLASH1970]

I think it's cool you're messing with this type of thing, BUT ...

It won't work with any of the after-market bumpers, which quite a few people have been installing latley ....

Well, I don't plan on installing any aftermarket bumper. The front end of my Fusion is fine the way it is I think. But, I could do some tweaking possibly if I knew how the front bumpers attached to the sled.

 

[donbrown]

The opening is angled down towards the openings in the front of the sled so it should draw air from there. I also thought about putting a piece in between the pipe and intake to close it off from the engine compartment.

I think a divide between engine compartment and atmosphere intake is a good thing.

 

[donbrown]

Here's the one I'm running...part Honda Civic, part VW GTI, part Timbersled. The filter sits right behind the left hood vent and works much better than the Timbersled...doesn't seem to suck the hot vapor like when the filter was down right next to the exhaust. Kinda like what you are talking about jafraune...only different

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How does the exhaust wrap work for you?

 

[jafraune]

Ja,
I like this idea if you get something built let me know I would be interested.
Thanks, Rod

Thank you....I dont think I will trying my idea anytime soon though...well for at least this winter, but theres always next.

Here's the one I'm running...part Honda Civic, part VW GTI, part Timbersled. The filter sits right behind the left hood vent and works much better than the Timbersled...doesn't seem to suck the hot vapor like when the filter was down right next to the exhaust. Kinda like what you are talking about jafraune...only different

I really like this design, if it could just be vented outside somehow it would be absolutely perfect....

 

[HUNDO]

How does the exhaust wrap work for you?

Not sure yet Don, just got it wrapped up last weekend...I'll let ya know when the snow flies

 

[donbrown]

Not sure yet Don, just got it wrapped up last weekend...I'll let ya know when the snow flies

I thought about doing this but opted not to.

People on here advised me the wrap will rub off the ceramic coat on the pipe from expansion / contraction from heating and cooling of the pipe. Plus vibration from the engine.

Then the pipe will rust.

Also the wrap will hold moisture until it heats up.