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I'm gonna give you boys a lil tip ..........

RMK Junky said:
Not sure if your aware of this Beels but Co-op has a contract with Petro Can. They buy 90% of there fuel from Petro Can and contracts must be honored. So that works good in your favor but now my Petro Pass card is only good for opening the shower door, hahaha. The refineries in the US are old and tired. Maintenance and repairs are none stop. Here in Alberta there is four key players; Shell, Esso, Petro Can, and Suncor. All are under maintenance or restructure/repair of some sort. There is no oil shortage but a refinery shortage. There are oil and gas reserves that are untouched simply because of seasonal access or political stumbling blocks. It's there, just expensive to get.
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are UFA tangled up in that with petro can and co-op too? UFA here in Grimshaw is dry for the first time since this all started, 2pm today they were out of clear and marked diesel.
 
RMK Junky said:
Not sure if your aware of this Beels but Co-op has a contract with Petro Can. They buy 90% of there fuel from Petro Can and contracts must be honored. So that works good in your favor but now my Petro Pass card is only good for opening the shower door, hahaha. The refineries in the US are old and tired. Maintenance and repairs are none stop. Here in Alberta there is four key players; Shell, Esso, Petro Can, and Suncor. All are under maintenance or restructure/repair of some sort. There is no oil shortage but a refinery shortage. There are oil and gas reserves that are untouched simply because of seasonal access or political stumbling blocks. It's there, just expensive to get.
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that my friend is the funniest sh1t ive seen today ..............told the wife .."All my card is good for right now is showers"...................tuche:beer;:beer;
 
teeroy said:
are UFA tangled up in that with petro can and co-op too? UFA here in Grimshaw is dry for the first time since this all started, 2pm today they were out of clear and marked diesel.
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don't worry guys like Beels and Marcuso got her figured out ........
 
UFA is hit and miss with fuel deliveries here to around the GP area. I had heard they have 400 rail cars coming from out east to restock fuel reserves but when they arive who knows. The rail has their own schedule. UFA also buys fuel from whoever they can get it from. I know a couple of o/op's with Trimac that haul for UFA exclusively and load at Esso,Petro Can,etc.
 
heres the deal kids ................Montreal is sending nothin but train cars for Diavik,Ekati,Snap Lake and Lupin .............oh right those are Diamond mines ...ever heard of Ice Road Truckers ....yea well the fuel usually comes from Edmontonchucks Petro refinery ...guess what...........not gonna happen

don't think thats gonna hit home ????????? like I said ..wait longer ...and don't be snivelin when bread is worth 20 bucks a loaf in January.
 
RMK Junky said:
Not sure if your aware of this Beels but Co-op has a contract with Petro Can. They buy 90% of there fuel from Petro Can and contracts must be honored. So that works good in your favor but now my Petro Pass card is only good for opening the shower door, hahaha. The refineries in the US are old and tired. Maintenance and repairs are none stop. Here in Alberta there is four key players; Shell, Esso, Petro Can, and Suncor. All are under maintenance or restructure/repair of some sort. There is no oil shortage but a refinery shortage. There are oil and gas reserves that are untouched simply because of seasonal access or political stumbling blocks. It's there, just expensive to get.
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Ya, in Alberta.
 
RMK Junky said:
British Columbia and Alberta Co-ops are supplied by Petro Scam. That way Co-op can keep the good stuff in SK.......I know what your up to Beels :beer;
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I prefer not to deal with the Co-op, but no one else is competitive locally. Not to mention we've never had an issue with Co-op fuel. Can't say the same for Esso. Last winter, we had 2 different customers running theirs and had equipment that wouldn't even run on it. The dealer came and sucked their tanks out and replaced it. Our mileage dropped off horribly on it with our Detroits. We were getting ours from the local Esso retailer at the time.
 
Esso fuel can be like that 4th drink at Showgirls.....watered down. Condensation issues with Esso have been know to happen in this area also. The quality of fuel just isn't there anymore. There's alot more Fuel additives out there now and with these new motors and emissions, mileage and power are unfortuneatly going to be sacraficed :mad:
 
RMK Junky said:
Esso fuel can be like that 4th drink at Showgirls.....watered down. Condensation issues with Esso have been know to happen in this area also. The quality of fuel just isn't there anymore. There's alot more Fuel additives out there now and with these new motors and emissions, mileage and power are unfortuneatly going to be sacraficed :mad:
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When a guy is paying what he is for fuel, you tend to expect decent quality.

Still laughing about the 4th drink at Showgirls comment...:D

That reminds me of when the Kooler was open in Saskatoon. A few of us rolled in there one time, I dropped $100 on whiskey and drove away. Sober as I drank 6 light beer. They lost their liquor license not too long after for watering down their booze.
 
What mileage are you getting with your Detroits? Running Petro Can or Shell with my 550 Cat at 46,500 GVW I average 4-5mpg. Alot of idle time because I haul fluid. Went to Vancouver last April empty pulling my 53' step deck and got 7 mpg at 1350 rpm doing 95kph. Then loaded home with 20,000#'s got a little over 5mpg.
 
slabm7 said:
The reason that US does not build anymore oil refineries is that they do not have the oil on there home turf to supply them unless more drilling is done in Alaska. The lower 48 has no more oil left to be discovered.
Also the major oil companies cannot control oil prices, its all Saudia Arabia. They control the world oil market and its price. What the major oil companies produce is nowhere near what Saudi can do. Saudi oil cost 1.50/ barrel from the ground to the Tankers, much lower than anywhere in the world.

And they actually make more money when oil is reasonably priced because consumption goes up. If oil was to high no one buys it and they flood the world market essentially driving the price down at the same production rates. Opec cutting rates will not drive the price back up overnight but it will slow its fall.

The sad part is that Saudi Arabia holds the Western World hostage and there is nothing we can do about it when they can produce oil much cheaper and more abundant than anywhere else in the world.
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First, respectfully, this statement is not true. They are discovering more and more reserves every day. For example, the Bakken shale in ND and parts of MT tunneling up into Sask and Manitoba. By the end of 2007 they recovered around 100 million barrels of crude, due to new technology they now estimate that it is 25 times bigger than when it was last surveyed in 95. I know that the county that we are drilling in right now is expected to tripple or quadruple its capasity in 1 year. It's not that there are no more reserves, its that it just going to take some more time to re-survery some of the places that were swept under the rug 10 years ago.

Secondly, Its not all Saudi Arabia...got to do some work. I will touch on this later.

P.S. just wait untill Russia taps their new discovery, wait for that sh!t storm...
 
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