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If I were you ..............

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cause it really does affect us too!!!!!!!!!!!!

no kidding tim, in case you haven't noticed.....when your current gov't and banks decided to absolutely screw them selves into this hole, you seem to forget they pretty much take the rest of the G8 world down with them.

Canada is the most stable of all the G8 countries right now and look whats happening to us and our economy.

Well said buck
 
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haven't seen any oil shipped outa Alaska lately .....we haul it there to North Pole ..go finger

I betch 1000 bucks that this trip I will see aprox 7 new oil/gas rigs up and pumpin .between Fort Nelson and Fort St John not even to mention south to GP...2 weeks later there will be notin there ....just a fence and pumping station
 
Drill your own dirt? How about if we just invade you and take it?

You would have been wiped off the map if we were not your neighbor.

thats a brilliant statement, well thought out and well spoken. A great indicator of the talent level of people who share the same mindset as you.
glad to have you looking out for us. We Canadians feel blessed to have you personally as a neighbor.


PS, let me know how many people think similiar to what you do. I'm curious.
 
You make the assumption that everyone can be rich and better off, and that they just aren't working hard enough... That is a feel good argument... feel good about capitalism... That is a lie and doesn't work. Capitalism needs people at the bottom....


So by helping people off the bottom, then Obama will dissolve capitalism.:rolleyes:


Ruffy, people at the bottom need people at the top too.


Now quit the f'ing around an answer how I'll be better under Obama's tax plan.
 
No more answering a question with a question? Ruffy, Milehigh, he!! cmantle, help me out. Under Obama's plan off his website - I make 32500, single, am I better off then (1995) or now (2007)?

Well considering that I got my drivers permit in 95, and how the economy is not doing so good now, I would say 95. But your 12 years older and I would assume that your life has improved in those 12 years, so you should be better off now.

So by helping people off the bottom, then Obama will dissolve capitalism.:rolleyes:
Ruffy, people at the bottom need people at the top too.
Now quit the f'ing around an answer how I'll be better under Obama's tax plan.

I agree, we will always have people at the top and people at the bottom and that they are both needed.

Since I know you already have your rebuttal setup... You will be better under Obama's tax plan by having reduced taxes, by having access to better / affordable health care for you and your loved ones.... By creating many jobs in the energy sector stimulating the economy....
 
Since I know you already have your rebuttal setup... You will be better under Obama's tax plan by having reduced taxes, by having access to better / affordable health care for you and your loved ones.... By creating many jobs in the energy sector stimulating the economy....

Here's the problem: it won't happen.

Government has never made anything more affordable or better after getting their hands on it. And affordable in this case no doubt will mean subsidized.. No thank you.

No way in hell he'll actually decrease taxes. I surely don't like the spending that has gone on the last years. But his talk of increasing programs like there is no tomorrow is not conducive to tax cuts. Or redistribution of wealth, which ever way it's packaged.

And government does not create jobs.. it's just taxes someone else so it can support another bureaucracy. Money NOT given to the government will always produce more on the outside.

On top of all this, the man has no character. But that's a whole 'nother day:p:D
 
Ruffy, I'm a decent debater, but I don't wait for guys to say the right thing so I can pounce on them. I'm not trying to convince you that Obama is the devil/terrorist/illegal alien. I think MHA suggested checking out the Obama website for tax info. I did. This is in essence what it says - he'll roll back taxes to the 90's which were lower in cases than during Reagan. So I just went to the tax tables an got these numbers straight from IRS.

25k single married married file sep head of house

1995 3972 3754 4472 3754
2007 3363 2971 3363 3194



99k single married married file sep head of house

1995 25966 22800 28110 24213
2007 21838 17604 22278 19931


Sorry but I think my taxes are less now than they were then. As far as healthcare goes, we might have something to talk about there.
 
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Soooo Obama says that he will only tax 95% of the people ...right ??

and anybody that makes over $250 grand........sooo here is how it is gonna work ......50% by the way ....you keepin up ??

keep up now ..don't wanna go to fass ..

lets see I as a single business owner and operator makes in excess of $250 grand a year .....why in the fawk would I keep running up and down the road spendin time away from my wife and kids to make 125K .....ohhh right I spend 13 thousand a month in fuel to boot ....then these black basterds wanna throw on a carbon tax on top of that and want me to invent a vehicle that runs on air capable of pullin the same load that everyone demands every week ..............


alls I can say is I can't wait till bread is worth 24 bucks a loaf then these liberal commi bastderds will wish the hell that they did things a lil different..

that my friends is economics 101 ...test tomorrow .,..

PS .............Global warmin is a complete fairy tale kinda like Snow W****e and the seven Dwarves......ya thats right bed time stories ....invented to make ya sleepy


Sorry Chief, but you got it all back azwards. A $24 loaf is exactly what some would like. Lets move to the econ 300 series classes. You rock your rig around the great white north pullin dog food and moon pies or mining equipment. Good ol H2, truckin and solving crime. Your competition, ACME Frieght does the same, but they're getting tired of ol H2 cuttin into their bottom line.

So the 'G'overnment says cut your emissions; you say "I'll go broke, too hard, etc.". Acme does the same but then goes to the G and says "you know, your right about emmissions. We'll come on board, begrudgingly (sp?) but we're going to need this, that or the other..." So ACME helps write the legislation to benefit them and put an eff'ing to ol' H2.

Once they (ACME) run H2 off the road, then they say that they simply can't make it on current freight rates and petition the government to regulate rates so that its fair to every trucker. They then work with the same snakes they did on the air pollution and write the rate legisation and and in the end the ACME co. has raised their rates, gotten rid of the pesky competition and now has a secure income.

Hey H2

Remember this little exchange a while back?

Looky what I found -

General Mills, Kraft seek safety rules in ‘philosophical shift’ [Bloomberg News]
General Mills Inc., Kraft Foods Inc. and Kellogg Co. have reversed past opposition to increased food safety regulation and support U.S. legislation designed to prevent tainted food such as the contaminated peanut butter that killed nine people, the companies’ trade group said. A bill introduced in the Senate yesterday by Dick Durbin, an Illinois Democrat, and Judd Gregg, a New Hampshire Republican, would give the Food and Drug Administration new authority to recall products, require food-safety plans from manufacturers and impose regulations on fruits and vegetables most at risk of causing illness. In a “philosophical shift,” foodmakers support the FDA Food Safety Modernization Act, said Scott Faber, vice president of federal affairs for the Washington-based Grocery Manufacturers Association. The companies want government to help prevent contamination in addition to detecting it, he said.

Here is the link if anyone is interested:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aRnLL61d9xmc

Sorry to drag this ol horse out of the rendering plant, but I think its a harbinger of things to come.
 
h2snow

Why don't you worry about the country that you reside in? Why do you care who the presidentof the usa is if you can't have a say in it? If you want to have a say in it, why don't you move to the usa?

tim

what the U.S does effects canada , just like all the crap in mexico effects the US. that little imaginary line on the map is not a magical force feild.
if our citizens are poor and destitute canada can expect a bunch of illegal aliens of the american kind and mexicans too.



keep up the good work H2:beer;:beer;:beer;
 
I love it.
People actually believe The kenya king isn't going to raise their taxes.
Cap and traid on emissions from power plants.
Raises your electric bill and any manufacturing that uses that electricity will pass the added cost onto you and me.

Additional gas taxes.
Costs more to drive to the socialist provided jobs.

Additional taxes on cars (taxes and licensing). Carbon offset tax on auto emisions.

but Obama isn't going to raise your taxes.
He's going to let everyone else do it for him.
Anyone that thinks Obama is good for the working man must also believe Rosy is good spoksman for a diet food.
 
Don't forget the Busch tax cut expires in 2010 and BO has said he will let it expire. This will cause the largest tax increase in modern history so he can use smoke and mirrors on these other taxes but the Bush tax cut was across the board so the tax increase will be across the board.Swampy:eek::mad:

I love it.
People actually believe The kenya king isn't going to raise their taxes.
Cap and traid on emissions from power plants.
Raises your electric bill and any manufacturing that uses that electricity will pass the added cost onto you and me.

Additional gas taxes.
Costs more to drive to the socialist provided jobs.

Additional taxes on cars (taxes and licensing). Carbon offset tax on auto emisions.

but Obama isn't going to raise your taxes.
He's going to let everyone else do it for him.
Anyone that thinks Obama is good for the working man must also believe Rosy is good spoksman for a diet food.
 
just to add in my 2 cents... we couldn't have a better neighbor than canada..
fck if we would want anyone else... look at our southern neighbor
your largest trading partner and largest supplier of oil and gas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that's us, always ready to help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :beer;
 
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