I was just wondering if anyone from IDAHO actually draws on these hunts anymore and where the majority of those that do are from. It used to be alot easier to draw when there were alot more hunters than it is now and the number of hunters has declined steadily over the last 10yrs or so. I sure see alot of non-resident plates everywhere I hunt in Idaho now, I guess the Fish and Game makes more money on non-residents so screw the residents??
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Same situation here, living right next to the Yellowstone boarder, out of staters are crawling everywhere looking for the trophy's to come out of the park. The draw hunts are being cut drasticly every yr because of grizz, (and now wolf), management areas. Hence the reason we have no access to the old logging roads for wheelers or bikes like the southern part of the state has. Getting harder and harder to compete with the "classic road hunters", to get the game we used to have.
Another government agency with too much money and no brain to put our $ to use. Go figure, huh.
Another government agency with too much money and no brain to put our $ to use. Go figure, huh.
Some of us do but I still enjoy going back down there and chasin whitetail.
Oh we Idahoans draw, infact, i drew my Rocky mtn Bighorn tag this year! This is after 25 years of trying for this particular tag, this is in the same unit that my wife drew 2 years ago, so we kinda buck the saying that Idahoans dont draw 
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Some Idaho folks try the airport bathroom stall approach to hunting.
I drew a 66A rifle elk tag in idaho last year as a non resident (hunted harder than a man should have to, last morning of the hunt i shoot a 339 6x7 right down by the freeway that heads to afton), and general archery hunted it the two years previous years... All i have to say is... Man it will be nice to be hunting some 400 bulls in utah this year!
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I drew a 66A rifle elk tag in idaho last year as a non resident (hunted harder than a man should have to, last morning of the hunt i shoot a 339 6x7 right down by the freeway that heads to afton), and general archery hunted it the two years previous years... All i have to say is... Man it will be nice to be hunting some 400 bulls in utah this year!
If thats all you pulled out of that unit on that hunt, then some one gave you bad directions on good areas. If you ever draw on that again, get ahold of me. Ive been archery hunting that unit for years and thats a baby for that unit.
I drew a 66A rifle elk tag in idaho last year as a non resident (hunted harder than a man should have to, last morning of the hunt i shoot a 339 6x7 right down by the freeway that heads to afton), and general archery hunted it the two years previous years... All i have to say is... Man it will be nice to be hunting some 400 bulls in utah this year!
Nice to know you drew on the unit Ive been trying to draw on. Glad you got your elk, I would probably have a better chance drawing in Utah I have seen some records coming out of there on Boone and Crockett. Pretty well proves my point tho. There are only 50 permits in that unit for the early hunt, I wonder how many other non-residents drew. Im pretty sure this is the last year I will purchase a sportsmans package in Idaho. Just do the combo hunting/fishing and stop donating to the Idaho Fish and Game charity fund.
Oh we Idahoans draw, infact, i drew my Rocky mtn Bighorn tag this year! This is after 25 years of trying for this particular tag, this is in the same unit that my wife drew 2 years ago, so we kinda buck the saying that Idahoans dont draw
Hell, you can barely scribble.
BTW, you guys coming up to Seeley again this summer? Promises to be VERY green and WAY less smokey.
Headed up Thursday....
Shall we compare bulls we've shoot of the unit?! I've archery hunted it for 8 years homie, i said 2 because i know how you idaho boys get with non residents. Can you top that? lol. I have shoot 4 bulls in those first 5 years over 320. Since then i've shoot 1 and my 339 i shoot on the rifle. I'm a proffesional guide so its not like i don't know how to hunt. The unit is goin downhill fast and you know it. BTW my favorite spot on the whole unit is the mapple draws on the front side of Baldy? ew brings the chills just thinkin of those draws on the archery hunt back in the early 2000's. I shoot most my bulls there or Tincup Basin. I shoot my bull last year on the rifle way far from where i have ever hunted. Clear down low by the highway to afton. I could hear the highway from way I dropped my bull. I know the unit, and i sure as heck no how to hunt, i'd like to see some of these monsters you have pulled off this hunt?? Maybe i am over confident on my hunting and guiding, i dunno, but i hiked and hunted my butt off more than any other hunt and killed the biggest bull i saw, and for someone to put me down on that pisses me off
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Give me a pm when you draw. I can give you drainages and starting points on basically any unit in the state.
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Nate
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The outta stater deal is Moot. You can hate outta staters all you want, but they are Americans, and most are tax paying citizens. I use to hate outta staters, but they have just as much right to be there as you do. You or anybody else dont own the mountains. Thats just the fluctuation of people your hating, not the outta staters themselves.
Game&Fish will give more outta state tags out due to revenue it brings to the state. You dont think you see the revenue but you do. I use to guide TONS and guide very little now. I guide a small elk hunting area thats in the top areas to hunt for in the state of wyoming just 30 miles outside town. The draw rate for outta staters is 21%. The draw for locals is less than 1%. This area produces in the herd over 100 Bulls over the 330 mark. Which aint bad, but it aint too terribly great. Over my years of guiding ive found to respect outta staters. They drive countless hours for 1 thing, a shot at a big one, a shot at something we see so very commonly. Most of the time they shoot a mediocre bull/buck. But its huge to them. You couldnt wipe the grin off there face if you tried That alone is enough to respect a hunter. They are just happy to be continuing the legacy that there fathers bestowed upon them.
Also, I didnt draw ANY of my tags this year. My uncle is the supervisor for Game&Fish for the state of Wyoming and he basically told me that my luck just ran out. Oh well, ive had 8 great and successful lucky years of hunting, bagging a few trophies and knocking down some decent bulls into the trophy class. I thank my lucky stars my streak was as long as it was
Dont take hunting for granted, ever. You should be lucky that you get to go hunting and that you get to buy tags over the counter at wall-mart at such a cheap price.
Im putting in for elk in Makaveli_Rev's area next year I want to be guided for once goddamnit
Respect your fellow hunter
Game&Fish will give more outta state tags out due to revenue it brings to the state. You dont think you see the revenue but you do. I use to guide TONS and guide very little now. I guide a small elk hunting area thats in the top areas to hunt for in the state of wyoming just 30 miles outside town. The draw rate for outta staters is 21%. The draw for locals is less than 1%. This area produces in the herd over 100 Bulls over the 330 mark. Which aint bad, but it aint too terribly great. Over my years of guiding ive found to respect outta staters. They drive countless hours for 1 thing, a shot at a big one, a shot at something we see so very commonly. Most of the time they shoot a mediocre bull/buck. But its huge to them. You couldnt wipe the grin off there face if you tried
That alone is enough to respect a hunter. They are just happy to be continuing the legacy that there fathers bestowed upon them.Also,
I didnt draw ANY of my tags this year. My uncle is the supervisor for Game&Fish for the state of Wyoming and he basically told me that my luck just ran out. Oh well, ive had 8 great and successful lucky years of hunting, bagging a few trophies and knocking down some decent bulls into the trophy class. I thank my lucky stars my streak was as long as it wasDont take hunting for granted, ever. You should be lucky that you get to go hunting and that you get to buy tags over the counter at wall-mart
at such a cheap price.Im putting in for elk in Makaveli_Rev's area next year
I want to be guided for once goddamnit Respect your fellow hunter
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I respect fellow hunters, but, it has changed around here. As in disrespectful A'hole's and trash on the roads. Let alone the idiots blocking the road for me or others. Yes the money is good for the state, But.................. The BULL**** that is left over gets to be too much, (IMO).
I feel that if you come to someone else's "backyard", you should respect it like it's your own!!!!! Plain and simple!!!
Yes, there are good peep's out there, (few and far between), but this has been my observation over the last 8-10 yrs in my neck of the woods.
I feel that if you come to someone else's "backyard", you should respect it like it's your own!!!!! Plain and simple!!!
Yes, there are good peep's out there, (few and far between), but this has been my observation over the last 8-10 yrs in my neck of the woods.
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Nate
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Then shoot them bastads
Ive seen locals do it as well. Like I said, its moot. Last year 6 guys from Wyoming shot moose in "mistake" of elk up on our local mountain. Talk about stupid, and it actually was a mistake, they really were not killing Moose to kill them. Im in kahoots with every one of our Game and Fish employees and Biologists in the state of Wyoming and I hear some interesting stories to say the leaste. Its a 2 way road.Poaching is done more by in-staters than outta staters ironically. But people poach the crap outta our antelope every year, in state and out.
You cant put all the blame on them, they just do things differently that seem akward and appauling to you, thats normal for them. Like blocking the road LMAO
Just shoot em, thats what we do
Where I hunt in Idaho it's the lazy azz guides that are ruining it, jump on the wheelers and run the logging roads from dusk till dawn. No respect, loud talking, trash leaving pieces of chit. The guide service is out of Orofino.
18 Bulls in 18 years of hunting down there, now I go back and chase the whitetails, much easier to pack out than the 1600lb bulls up here!!
18 Bulls in 18 years of hunting down there, now I go back and chase the whitetails, much easier to pack out than the 1600lb bulls up here!!
The outta stater deal is Moot. You can hate outta staters all you want, but they are Americans, and most are tax paying citizens. I use to hate outta staters, but they have just as much right to be there as you do. You or anybody else dont own the mountains. Thats just the fluctuation of people your hating, not the outta staters themselves.
Game&Fish will give more outta state tags out due to revenue it brings to the state. You dont think you see the revenue but you do. I use to guide TONS and guide very little now. I guide a small elk hunting area thats in the top areas to hunt for in the state of wyoming just 30 miles outside town. The draw rate for outta staters is 21%. The draw for locals is less than 1%. This area produces in the herd over 100 Bulls over the 330 mark. Which aint bad, but it aint too terribly great. Over my years of guiding ive found to respect outta staters. They drive countless hours for 1 thing, a shot at a big one, a shot at something we see so very commonly. Most of the time they shoot a mediocre bull/buck. But its huge to them. You couldnt wipe the grin off there face if you tried
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Dont take hunting for granted, ever. You should be lucky that you get to go hunting and that you get to buy tags over the counter at wall-mart
Im putting in for elk in Makaveli_Rev's area next year
Respect your fellow hunter
Oh i can hook a fellow snowester up. Put in for SouthWest Desert Early Rifle or Archery, or San Juan Early Rifle or Archry, you draw. I will mark up a topo map and send it to you. You follow my marks, you will shoot a 380 bull. first you gotta draw the tag though
Will do thanks. There are still some good 350+ class bulls in the unit, but you are right like all of the good units, the numbers are declining. Going to be interesting to see how bad the winter kill was this year Im hearing its not going to be good and because I didnt draw I will be hunting in the general season with all the other crazy Utahns and Californians! Lol!
How old do you have to be before you start sayin "screw big game hunting, Im a bird hunter now!" I think Im about there already.
Oh we Idahoans draw, infact, i drew my Rocky mtn Bighorn tag this year! This is after 25 years of trying for this particular tag, this is in the same unit that my wife drew 2 years ago, so we kinda buck the saying that Idahoans dont draw
Cool, where did you draw? The areas that I hunt still has a healthy sheep population and they have (I think) two permits each year. My uncle killed a big horn about 20 years ago, and one of my best friends drew and killed a big horn about 3 years ago. It is tough to get one of those tags.
Drawing a cow tag in my old stomping grounds units 36, 36A and 36B was pretty easy up until this year. In fact, there were excess tags for most years that you could purchase over the counter. Bulls were always more difficult to draw, but you always had the option for an over-the-counter tag for 36B.
Thanks to the wolves, the elk drawing permits have been slashed in 1/2, but you can still get the over-the-counter bull tag. Since the feds killed the Buffalo Ridge pack for livestock depredations, it may give the calves a chance this year, but it is likely that another pack will just move in. We will see.
By the way, has anyone heard when the judge is due to make the decision concerning the wolf hunting season injunction? Molloy seems to be taking his sweet time.
Thanks to the wolves, the elk drawing permits have been slashed in 1/2, but you can still get the over-the-counter bull tag. Since the feds killed the Buffalo Ridge pack for livestock depredations, it may give the calves a chance this year, but it is likely that another pack will just move in. We will see.
By the way, has anyone heard when the judge is due to make the decision concerning the wolf hunting season injunction? Molloy seems to be taking his sweet time.
