I hear ya about that. I think I may try the haber
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Do 509 fit over glasses well?
imo, oakley a frames are the best but they aren't cheap.
best bang for the buck is 509.
Rode this weekend with my Habervisions Riva's at -20C (-4F). Only moisture problems came from snow getting inside goggles while digging my buddies azz out.
Might try a different (lighter) lens in them for coming down the trail in the dark but otherwise the polarized lenses are great.
milehigh.....Which style of goggle would you recommend along with lenses for clear days & cloudy days?