How are the Boondocker turbos running?

[dmkhnr]

Our 2 boondocker turbo's are running great, no det, no cut out, 9# of flawless smooth throttle. However, The power we are putting out at 9# isn't anywhere near the power that these intercooled guys are seeing.
I'm getting killed by older dragons, a lower boost sibler pro, and the cat guys are having a field day with me. These boondocker pro's are a fun sled, but they aren't making the power that they are capable of.

 

[allblowdup]

My 700 dragon bd rg at 10# had moer power than my pro at 8 lbs. I would really like to turn up the boost but it is a waste of time without an intercooler.

 

[ghost rider]

pro turbo

The boondocker kit out of the box leaves alot to be desired. It's not my first go round with turbos so i knew exactly how to fix their flaws to make the pro run like it should. It was also my first experience with the boondocker control box which is a little confusing at first but as i learned how to use it, it gives me a little more tuning than a dobek (which are on my other turbo sleds). First day out i couldn't go over 7lbs boost with 50 AV and Premium without hitting DET(7k -10K)! But according to boondocker i was the only one having this problem, told me to change clutching and still the same result! So at that point i figured like all my other turbos i would make it my own kit making a few minor changes.
It now runs stronger at 7lbs of boost than it did at 10. Ive increased my fuel on high rpms to upper 40's to also prove that i'm creating more horsepower than the kit they sent me with numbers in the mid 30's.
The sled runs better off bottom end than our stock pros with zero lag! It's definetly a keeper. The best and most fun sled I've ever ridden.
First, only, and last issue is heat!!!! When engine temps get to 155 u hit DET, when charge tube temps get to 185 consistently u hit DET. No intercooler is needed, just put on a cold air intake and you will be amazed. But beware you will b tuning all over again with all that extra horse power. I'm pleased with the kit now that i have done the r&d myself. ONE big mistake is that they didn't go with dual injectors!! Currently running up to 11lbs no DET on 50Av and 50 premium.

 

[theshadowrider]

The boondocker kit out of the box leaves alot to be desired. It's not my first go round with turbos so i knew exactly how to fix their flaws to make the pro run like it should. It was also my first experience with the boondocker control box which is a little confusing at first but as i learned how to use it, it gives me a little more tuning than a dobek (which are on my other turbo sleds). First day out i couldn't go over 7lbs boost with 50 AV and Premium without hitting DET(7k -10K)! But according to boondocker i was the only one having this problem, told me to change clutching and still the same result! So at that point i figured like all my other turbos i would make it my own kit making a few minor changes.
It now runs stronger at 7lbs of boost than it did at 10. Ive increased my fuel on high rpms to upper 40's to also prove that i'm creating more horsepower than the kit they sent me with numbers in the mid 30's.
The sled runs better off bottom end than our stock pros with zero lag! It's definetly a keeper. The best and most fun sled I've ever ridden.
First, only, and last issue is heat!!!! When engine temps get to 155 u hit DET, when charge tube temps get to 185 consistently u hit DET. No intercooler is needed, just put on a cold air intake and you will be amazed. But beware you will b tuning all over again with all that extra horse power. I'm pleased with the kit now that i have done the r&d myself. ONE big mistake is that they didn't go with dual injectors!! Currently running up to 11lbs no DET on 50Av and 50 premium.

Can you post pictures of your intake?

 

[ghost rider]

PICTURES

I'll see if i can get some on by tonight.

 

[theshadowrider]

I am thinking that we have not heard from boondockers yet because they have been focused on the Jackson hill climb. Hopefully soon they will post and update!

 

[dcturbo]

Here is a picture of my intake. Yes you will need to reclutch and remap

 

[Arcteryx]

Still no reply from Boondocker. I'm surprised that they wouldn't even at least "attempt" to communicate with their present customer's or answer questions for those that are considering purchasing their products.
I sent a pm to savedbygrace informing them of this thread several days ago and asked for some sort of reply....nothing!

Would love to add dcturbo's intake to the system and see what that does. It looks good and the placement and orientation seem like they would work perfectly. Nice work!

 

[dmkhnr]

I talked to Jared for a half hr this morning. He has a cold air intake, and intercooler that they are working on.
I asked about needing the 3rd or 4 injectors, and his reply was it isn't needed as the boondocker box overides the computers limit on fueling and with 60psi there is no need for aux injectors including the 3rd one that we all have.
I was told that I could do my own cold air intake, which would increase hp, or wait until bd comes out with their own.
Several other personal questions were asked, I got the scoop on the new 12 cat M8 turbo. My sled runs good at 8.5# So I will stick out the rest of this season with my current setup and then step into the intercooler or cold air intake in the fall.

 

[Liv4snow]

What did Jared have to say about eating reeds like popcorn. If those injectors will deliver enough fuel why wont mine? I think this is more of the same bs now they will save the day on the new ac.

 

[dmkhnr]

Out of the 2 bd's that we have, I've had 1 chipped reed. BD says to stack the bottom pedals.
I run 9# no problem, but the underhood heat kills the hp. If a snorkel will give me a consistent 200hp (I don't think this bd kit makes 200 hp now) I'd be a happy camper.

 

[pinit]

we need cooler and a cold air intake on these pros took mine out the other day and at 8000 feet 30 degrees out on 9 pounds of boost was consistantly over 200 degrees on the charge temps if I took the turbo side side panel off it would drop the charge temps be 50 degrees and yes one set of reed down the drain

 

[Wheel House Motorsports]

holy chit dude.. 200+* charge temps on 9# off boost. thats offensive. no wonder reeds wont last. there freakin melting off and cruising throught your motor.. also bet you get to run plenty of race gas to keep the deto away. and the amount of power on the table running things that hot is stupid.

compressing air is obviously gonna heat it up quite a bit.. but getting 200+ charge temps running in 30* weather is seriously retarded.

 

[dmkhnr]

It looks easy enough to extend the intake out the right side stock intake vent location.
If you take that mesh vent off, and trace out a plastic block off plate, rivet in place, 3 1/4 hole saw and poke the the intake out.
This way your not drilling any holes in your hood.

 

[pinit]

took mine out today and ran the chit out of it zero issues ran it form 7-10 pounds all day and some long pulls wot figured its close to the end lets see if this thing will hold together. Change some clutching and found it to work alot beter

 

[HandFullThrottle]

The problem with putting your intake on the outside is as soon as you ride in the powder you can't stop snow from building up on the outside of your filter. Once this happens you have an air restiction problem which it seems to me would create even higher air temps than I am dealing with using under hood air. Then your stuck with a sled that can't get air except for the few minutes between when you clean the intake off and when it plugs again. If the powder is deep your fighting two problems, a sled that can't find consistant air and clutching/fueling set up for a sled that can. Outside air intakes work fine for sled that are used mostly for chute climbing, but not a good set up for boondocking in powder. Even opening up the panel in front of the intake with mesh is a short term fix because if it does what you would like it to do provide cold air it will plug up to. It's a bandaide fix at best, and I think BD knows this. This resolution is figureing out how to cool the air being used from under the hood. IMO

 

[dcturbo]

I have had my cold air intake outside now for 4 rides and 3 of them was when the snow is coming over my hood right into my face.

This last weekend I was in Togwotee and we had 3 ft.+ of fresh snow and I had no problems with the snow building up and restricting the air flow.
If you let off the throttle the blow back cleans off any snow that's stuck to the intake.
I have had cold air intakes on several sleds and never had any issues with the intake.

I suppose in different parts of the country snow is stickier and heavier than what we have here in Wyo.

The problem with putting your intake on the outside is as soon as you ride in the powder you can't stop snow from building up on the outside of your filter. Once this happens you have an air restiction problem which it seems to me would create even higher air temps than I am dealing with using under hood air. Then your stuck with a sled that can't get air except for the few minutes between when you clean the intake off and when it plugs again. If the powder is deep your fighting two problems, a sled that can't find consistant air and clutching/fueling set up for a sled that can. Outside air intakes work fine for sled that are used mostly for chute climbing, but not a good set up for boondocking in powder. Even opening up the panel in front of the intake with mesh is a short term fix because if it does what you would like it to do provide cold air it will plug up to. It's a bandaide fix at best, and I think BD knows this. This resolution is figureing out how to cool the air being used from under the hood. IMO