HawkFest Questions

[Thunderhawk]

I understand where we are staying is not near the trials. How far from the hotel to the launch location? Are the machines being stored at/near the launch location or are they loaded and transported each day?

Are groups being formed? There will be "early birds" and "late owls" amongst us! BuffalowHawk and I will be wanting to be in the early group.

How far from the riding area to the launch area? The point of this question is fuel. Is something being done to transport fuel out to the riding area, or do we ride back to the launch area to refuel?

What's up with lunches? Is something being organized, or do we all just bring our own out on the trail each day?

Do the McCurdy's run a flight school? I want to sign up for that!!

 

[TLKDPROD]

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How far from the riding area to the launch area? The point of this question is fuel. Is something being done to transport fuel out to the riding area, or do we ride back to the launch area to refuel?

What you have in your tank or carry in an extra jerry can is what you got for the day ! Everybody have to deal with that here and "manage" his fuel for the day !

 

[Thunderhawk]

Are you saying it's to far to go back to the launch area to refuel?

A 9 gal tank is about a half days riding!!

 

[TLKDPROD]

I don't know about this particular area in Logan but here in BC all the playing area are too far back to go refuel, yes. You gotta pack some up.

Blasting down groomed trails is not like boondhawking like we're gonna do up there ! More than likely if snow is good enough everybody should get stuck once or twice, there goes half your energy spending of the day ! Then that 9 gal should be enough for one day !!!

 

[Beeline]

If its what I ride then your 9 gal will be fine. Mountain runs will poop you out within 20 to 30 miles, if you're not used to it .

 

[Thunderhawk]

I can't imagine being tired after 20-30 miles, rode 115 on Saturday and it was only that little because I led a group of 6 and spent half my day keeping the group together and pointed in the same direction, so to speak. The real point however, is that I need to find a way to pack gas.

Are different riding groups formed based on wake up time, challenge to be faced, or other criteria? Early birds like Eric and I want to start at sun up and will probably ride till sun down. This may be the only time we ever see big mountian riding and we want to pack as much in as we possibly can.

 

[Beeline]

If you can ride " all Day " then you have ultimate stamina.

 

[onewoodsrider]

You might find that you will get tired faster riding at 6-8000 feet then riding a trail at 500-1500 feet. I know that i cant imagine riding a 100 mile day in the mountains at 5000 feet without dying lol. Oxygen and lack of it is going to be a huge factor for the east coast riders not use to riding higher elevations. Im also sure someone will have sleds to act as gas mules

 

[Thunderhawk]

Ahh!!! The oxygen factor. I suppose that could come in to play.

I still can't see getting by without refueling. From previous threads I've developed the understanding that the 12Gal tank is a MUST for mountian riding, yet now everyone's says we won't need to worry about fuel. Are those responding assuming 12 Gal tanks? Here in the East, I need a tank(9 Gal) for the morning and a tank for the afternoon.

I think us East Coasters are going to surprise you with our stamina. I understand your riding will be more difficult, but I still think we'll ride all day and almost non-stop.

T minus 23 days and counting!!

 

[TCSKIBIKE]

Yes don't under estimate the East Coast riders, yesterday I rode almost 100 miles chasing sleds on muddy icy bumpy trails almost non stop for about 5 hours. The altitude will be a factor for you Thunderhawk but it wont completely negate athleticism. I have done a few stints at 10,000 ft on Mountain bikes and there was a difference in my heart rate but I was still smoking the local slouches.

 

[Dobber1]

More than likely if snow is good enough everybody should get stuck once or twice, there goes half your energy spending of the day ! Then that 9 gal should be enough for one day !!!

They will understand if/once this happens.....

 

[onewoodsrider]

Hey all at no time in my post did i under estimate east coast riders or thier stamina or ability to ride. I hope you dont think i was talking s--t. And i really dont think that the riding will be that much more difficult then what your riding it will simply just be different. And hell i hope you ride all day and have a blast. But as for myself thier is no chance in hell i can ride a 100miles on my hawk without seeing a heart attack in my near future.

 

[TCSKIBIKE]

Hey all at no time in my post did i under estimate east coast riders or thier stamina or ability to ride. I hope you dont think i was talking s--t. And i really dont think that the riding will be that much more difficult then what your riding it will simply just be different. And hell i hope you ride all day and have a blast. But as for myself thier is no chance in hell i can ride a 100miles on my hawk without seeing a heart attack in my near future.

No Offense taken what so ever, OneWoods. My response was written because I'm getting old and I need to make myself feel relevant You must stay in shape riding that beast in your Avatar.

 

[Thunderhawk]

No offense taken here either!!

I guess I'm in very good shape for a guy my age who does not excerise. The family went to Peru last year. My wife was telling me I needed to get in shape because she hikes all the time.

We had 2 horses, one for the gear and one for one of us to take turns riding. One person has to carry a backpack with the needs of the day, while the horse and gear went ahead to set up the next camp.

Who do you think carried the pack for 4 days/90 miles hiking to Machu Picchu at 9,000ft. Who do you think never rode the horse?

I once rode a motorcyle from north of Quebec to Tampa Fl (2,000 miles) in 2 days. Last year rode a sled 330 miles in 11 hours and felt better at the end of the ride than at the beginning. That day started with a 200 mile drive to the start location, 330 mile snowmobile ride, followed by a 500 mile drive home from the finish line in Canada.

I'm getting older, but still have more drive than kids half my age.

 

[trplxj]

Most of the trail heads are going to be a 30 to 40 minute drive from the nearest gas station. If you think you will need more than the 9 gallons you better take fuel with you on a pack mule (2 ski sled) I may be able to help out in this department. Or cruise back to the trail head. I would take fuel just to be safe. When I was sleding almost every weekend we would ride 50 to 60 miles and would be dead tired. I'm not saying you are weak or anything like that. But I think that you will find that high alttitude, mountain riding will tire you out faster than you think. I will dare say that maybe 20% of the riding you will be doing will be on groomed trails. The rest will be blasting through the trees and up and down all kinds of hills.

As for lunch, I will be taking my food with me and eating on the mountain side somewhere.

Hope this helps.

 

[SnowDunes]

Hey Locals!

Hey N UT guys,

Is there any cabins or hotels or whatever that I can rent that has snow to play in right there? 50% chance of bringing wife and kids, and would like to be able for them to play without having to trailer the small toys.... So I can take the trailer up to the mountain!

Phone numbers, names would be excellent...

 

[buffaloHAWK]

Lol!!!!!!!!

this topic is out of control! east coast vs west coast shoot out just like the supercross lites division!! omg im LMAO!!!

what time does the McCurdy class start? and what time does the TLKD 2 ski Schooling session begin?

this is gonna be great!

 

[onewoodsrider]

We should probaly stop feeding this monster lol

 

[off road rider]

My 503 is faster than yours

 

[TLKDPROD]

Being born & raised back east and been here out west for my 3rd season now, I can certify you're spending way way way less energy per kilometer riding groomed trails than "boonhawkin" up the pow at 5-7K ! That's what's allowing you to go through that much gas. Since we only have a certain amount of "body energy" available for one day and since the amount of energy you have to spend per "gallon of gas" is a lot lot higher, I have to say your body energy is what's gonna probably become empty before your tank is ! Nice to have a 12 Gal Tank anyway...

Plus another thing that plays in the balance for the fuel consumption is an 800 Hawk at 500' will run good with 470-480-490 mains. Up here, I've got 410 in mine, some of the other guys will be running 390 maybe lower at higher altitude... Air is thinner for us but so it is for our motors... !

We'll see how it turns out but I had personnally never seen anybody go through 18 gal of fuel here within one day. If you go through 12 it's probably gonna be feeling like 150-175 miles of trails. Definately not impossible but it's gonna be one big day that's for sure !