Completely full of gas is so much easier to trust. How does someone know "exactly X gallons of gas". I know it is splitting hairs at this point but I would love to have a true starting point so I know what I will drop on my sled with mods. $100 a pound average for weight loss so it would be nice to be accurate.
has anyone weighed the 2013s yet?
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Have you ever seen one of those, them there gas can thingy's with the marks on the outside for gallons that are on the inside?
Now that theirs funny! I don't care who ya are...........
Why do people have to be such d(cks? I made an honest comment, didn't rip you, no criticism, just a comment. Some gas cans have markings, most by far don't. Also, how much gas is in the sled before you added your perfect 3 gallons? Are they drained perfectly dry after they are run at the factory? Why are the weight numbers always different? Why pick 3 gallons? Should have done 3 5/8 gal. True empty can be really tough unless you want to pull the tank which would be a total pain. Why not fill it up or is that just too easy? Or logical? Or smart? 
I'll wait for someone to do it right, thanks.
I'll wait for someone to do it right, thanks.This is quite entertaining! Like I mentioned before if we all just picked a way to weigh a sled originally then we could compare, then weigh with all they goodies. This way we can compare year to year and sled to sled easily.
Here is what I would do:
Ensure fuel is drained
Top up oil (cause I think we all top it up when we ride most times)
Weigh sled as it comes stock - wet no fuel - no extras such as spare belt and gas jugs etc...
Throw the sled up on the scales, get weight.
Then while its on the scales or whatever just add the rest and write down the weights as I go, tools, extra fuel and whatever else is on the sled that I ride with just for my own reference.
Anyway if I get my hand on a scale this is how I would do it, not telling how anyone else should do it...
Thanks to those who posted weights already no matter how you did it its nice to see what these are coming in at.
Here is what I would do:
Ensure fuel is drained
Top up oil (cause I think we all top it up when we ride most times)
Weigh sled as it comes stock - wet no fuel - no extras such as spare belt and gas jugs etc...
Throw the sled up on the scales, get weight.
Then while its on the scales or whatever just add the rest and write down the weights as I go, tools, extra fuel and whatever else is on the sled that I ride with just for my own reference.
Anyway if I get my hand on a scale this is how I would do it, not telling how anyone else should do it...
Thanks to those who posted weights already no matter how you did it its nice to see what these are coming in at.
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I personally don't ride with a full tank of fuel. We live 20 minutes from our riding area and our average ride is about 2-3 hours (30-50 times per year) and we're back in town. I normally only use about 4-5 gallons/ride. Now obviously always taking safety into consideration, I have always hated to ride with that extra 50lbs (6 gallons of fuel) of weight when I don't have too. We know that gas weighs about 6.1lbs/gallon. If we weighed with everything except fuel, (WNF-wet, no fuel) we could figure on our own what weight we are when riding. Different opinions for different folks I guess. Just like Democrat and Republican........ I was just trying to give guys an idea of what they were hanging. A little bit of fuel in the fuel lines, or in the very front right corner of the tank, we are now talking ounces.... Does it really matter when you just put down a 2lb, 7-11 burrito on the way up? Or was it really only 1.8lbs???
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WNF. Wet, no fuel in tank is the most logical way to compare across the board. Worrying about fuel in line, injectors, pump etc is a little too OCD for me.
Agreed......
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spider
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Just For Reference:
From the '13 owner's manuel:
coolant capacity: 155 = 5.3 qrts
163 = 5.5 qrts
oil capacity: 3 qrts
50/50 antifreeze: 8.8 lbs/gal (staight antifreeze= 9.3 lbs/gal, h2o=8.3)
oil = 7 lbs/gal, 5.25 lbs for 3 qrts
SO.. when pondering all these sled weights,
use a coolant and oil number of basically 17 pounds to do your math
155" Pro = 16.9 lbs for oil+coolant
163" Pro = 17.35 lbs
Gas @ 60degreesF = 6.17 lbs/gal (gas density changes with temp)
1 can of Bud Light = .84 lbs
From the '13 owner's manuel:
coolant capacity: 155 = 5.3 qrts
163 = 5.5 qrts
oil capacity: 3 qrts
50/50 antifreeze: 8.8 lbs/gal (staight antifreeze= 9.3 lbs/gal, h2o=8.3)
oil = 7 lbs/gal, 5.25 lbs for 3 qrts
SO.. when pondering all these sled weights,
use a coolant and oil number of basically 17 pounds to do your math
155" Pro = 16.9 lbs for oil+coolant
163" Pro = 17.35 lbs
Gas @ 60degreesF = 6.17 lbs/gal (gas density changes with temp)
1 can of Bud Light = .84 lbs
Thanks for this info! Good stuff. That would mean the 163" that we hung would be roughly 435lbs. dry.
Aaron
I enjoy reading these discussions every year on sled weights. I especially enjoy the level of venomous anger some folks have over how somebody decides to weigh the sled. If 2 or 3 pounds were that important to me I would not rely on someone else to give me weights, I would do it myself.
So carry on with this thread and get your blood pressure up over gas - no gas, certified scale - not certified scale, or does this sled make my butt look big.
So carry on with this thread and get your blood pressure up over gas - no gas, certified scale - not certified scale, or does this sled make my butt look big.
Bud Lite .84. wonder what regular bud weighs.
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snowmobiler
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time to weigh riders.my gramma is 95 pounds
There were two sleds to West Coast shop delivered, both 2012,s, Cat 8 162 and Poo 8 163, Both had a tad of oil and just enough fuel to start/prep. The cat was at 510lbs and the Poo 450lbs
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geo
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Boy's, boy's, boy's. This IS the Pro forum, right? Why do we need to split hairs?
We are 40, 50, 60 lbs lighter than the rest to start! Yee haw!
My scales showed (RF 125, LF 139, rear 165) 429 running as I got it from the dealer.
Out a lb or 10? I don't care cause I'm 40, 50, or 60 lbs lighter to start than last year or any other of my past 22 sleds.
Stock!
Kudos Poo
We are 40, 50, 60 lbs lighter than the rest to start! Yee haw!
My scales showed (RF 125, LF 139, rear 165) 429 running as I got it from the dealer.
Out a lb or 10? I don't care cause I'm 40, 50, or 60 lbs lighter to start than last year or any other of my past 22 sleds.
Stock!
Kudos Poo
Geo that is good info. Would have thought ALL fluids but gas and two stroke oil would weigh more than 12 pounds over "dry" weight. Do you use your scales to set a balance on left and right side weight and a balance to skis to skid weight? Just wonder how technical you are on set up? Corner weights and balance front to rear is so important on road race and circle track cars. I have no idea how important that is for sleds.
