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Great Idea snow park and trail maint

the reason why they are up there grooming, they are making $90.00 an hour at 5mph.If people are up there at midnight they should be able to see the lights on the groomer.[duh].maybe they should shut down the trail or put a sign out warning they are grooming, so no one gets hurt or ran over.if the trail is smooth put 2 and 2 together and know that they are grooming.if they are riding fast enough over the whoops to run into the groomer then they shouldnt be grooming.

not every year does it snow the way it snowed this year.All at the same time.on the years that it doesnt snow as much there should be money left over for the years that it does snow bunches.I mean really they have been grooming these trails since the 70's.
 
I buy tabs for three sleds, I know what it takes to run the groomer, So I don't mind paying the fees, I would pay more, In fact when asked, most of the sledders in Washington State said yes we'll pay more for better grooming so now, we do.That was seven years ago I think....
I also think that when a special group ie cross country skiers wants a certain area exclusive only to them I believe that's fine. I would however, like to see each pair or set of skis that are used in the snow parks have new tabs every year instead of a car full of people riding in all on one parking permit for the year.. I believe this is a reasonable expectation. They have there own areas to ski, do they pay any fees besides parking? I know the snow park I used to ride out of was taken over by cross country skiers years ago, so I can't go there any longer. Did they pay extra to have the snowmobiles taken out or is the tab fee for the snowmobiles used to subsidize there snow park grooming and parking. Bottom Line, I will pay more.. I think the skiers should too....
 
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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004196639_passsnow23m.html

Saturday, February 23, 2008 - Page updated at 12:17 AM

Clearing snow at passes leaves state over budget
By Susan Gilmore
Seattle Times staff reporter

This winter's deluge of snow in the mountain passes has put the costs of snow removal nearly 20 percent over budget.

Through Feb. 10, the state spent $6.5 million over its $35 million budget to keep the mountain passes open and roads in Eastern Washington clear of snow.

The state Department of Transportation (DOT), working with the Legislature and the governor's office, submitted a supplemental budget request for $6.5 million to cover the winter-weather costs.

"On Feb. 9 we had more snow on the ground than we had for 50 years," said Don Whitehouse, regional administrator for the DOT. "We've had as much snow as this, but we got it all at once."

White Pass received 78 inches of snow in 48 hours.

Whitehouse also said it was one of the highest avalanche years ever.

Keeping up with the snow wasn't easy, Whitehouse said. The state had to borrow equipment from as far away as Selah, Yakima County. Normally, he said, he runs a crew of 15 people on the Snoqualmie Pass, but needed three times that number this winter. Crews were working seven days a week, 24 hours a day.

"We hot-seated every piece of equipment," said Whitehouse, referring to equipment never getting a cold seat.

"We had enough equipment to keep up with the snowfall," he said, "but not the avalanche hazard." On Feb. 9, when Snoqualmie Pass was closed by avalanches, the DOT blew 30 avalanche chutes. The first one filled four lanes of Interstate 90 with 8 feet of snow.

According to the DOT:

• The state had planned to use 47,000 tons of sand and salt on state highways; through January it used 60,000 tons. At $150 a ton, that adds $2 million to the costs.
• Avalanche-control work at the passes was substantial. For the season, the DOT conducted more than 325 individual detonations, using 12,000 pounds of explosives. This cost another $2 million.
• Labor costs were huge keeping the passes open. The state spent an extra $1.5 million in regular time and $1.2 million in overtime, for a total cost of $2.7 million.​

Adding in the extra costs through Feb. 10, the total came to $6.5 million.

The numbers don't include the hundreds of thousands of dollars lost by trucking companies idled when the passes were closed. According to the DOT, Snoqualmie Pass was closed about 145 hours this winter, Stevens Pass 90 hours.

As of Sunday, the DOT reported that 425 inches of snow fell on Snoqualmie Pass.

But it's not close to a record. The highest snowfall year was the winter of 1955-56, when the pass received 828 inches of snow.
 
I would pay 100 pr year easy just to have the dam trails rideable so I can get my wife and kids out. I dont care so much weather or not they are done but my wife and kids wont go with the trails rough.
 
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