Great Idea snow park and trail maint
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Sounds good to me, thats pocket change compared to what I spend on this sport every year.
Something needs to be done.
We already pay for snowpark permit when we license the sled.
I would be for paying more towards the grooming and plowing ONLY if we can guarantee that the money will stay for that and only for that. Not moved into someother state fund than what it was originally set-up for.
P.P.
We already pay for snowpark permit when we license the sled.
I would be for paying more towards the grooming and plowing ONLY if we can guarantee that the money will stay for that and only for that. Not moved into someother state fund than what it was originally set-up for.
P.P.
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Ultralord
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I agree in this state you would have to watch it like a hawk.
I hate to be a vengeful person, but every vehicle without a snowpark tag should have the book thrown at them. I eneded up @ Cabin creek snowpark from the Easton direction and a snotty FS woman was right there to read me the riot act. She did back down once I told her there were absolutely no signs for No_snowmobiliing unless you come in from the freeway. She should have been roaming all the snow parks writing tickets and helping foil thiefs instead of drinking coffee with her click click friends
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I hate to be a vengeful person, but every vehicle without a snowpark tag should have the book thrown at them. I eneded up @ Cabin creek snowpark from the Easton direction and a snotty FS woman was right there to read me the riot act. She did back down once I told her there were absolutely no signs for No_snowmobiliing unless you come in from the freeway. She should have been roaming all the snow parks writing tickets and helping foil thiefs instead of drinking coffee with her click click friends
I had the same response I went to get a snow park permit with my tabs the did not have any--- so watever I went to buy one at the shack I think last year and the kittatas sherrif said he wanted to see my sleds cause if I was buying a snow park permit I must not have tabs. I went balistic he backed off and I made him come to my trailer and check then I called the forest service and they contacted the dol I must say they were very responsive.
$20 should suffice but I would like to get atleast 1 snowpark permit. I paid $45 this year and didn't get one permit, had to get one from a friend. or we could try and pass a law that keeps anybody else from taking from our funds. When you buy your tabs (parking permit) those funds should be secured for the purpose we intended them for, not for our governor to take away from and use on what she pleases. There is a general fund for that purpose anyway.
I will sighn that bill lets write it up...
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The only way 20 will work is if it is managed by a fellow rider hell we pay 12000 per kid for school and what does that get us
Let's do it!!!
I'll sign that one too!
Seriously, does anybody on here know the way to make something like this happen, (write a bill)?
My fee for the year was something like $35 (x2 sleds =~~$70) If we made it something to the tune of $50 per sled for the license tag and a Snow Park Permit, I think we would have a really good budget to work with.
I'll sign that one too!
Seriously, does anybody on here know the way to make something like this happen, (write a bill)?
My fee for the year was something like $35 (x2 sleds =~~$70) If we made it something to the tune of $50 per sled for the license tag and a Snow Park Permit, I think we would have a really good budget to work with.
Another thing. Sales tax for sled purcahses should be used for sled programs. My sales tax I paid for a sled (new or used) should go direclty to off-highway, snowmobile funds, not a "lets investigate mass transit bs".
Contact your legislative rep or senator with the info and reasoning for the bill. They can help you draft a bill or send you to the people who can.
You all remember that we are run by the deomocrats in king county?? They have yet to spend monies that were allocated for a specific item...on that item.
Why are they $100 mil over budget on the 4 new ferries that haven't even been built? Where did the $300 + mil go?
The list goes on and on and on. Until they are no longer in control we will continue to get the rubber fist. Even Riechert has turned into a democrat.
Why are they $100 mil over budget on the 4 new ferries that haven't even been built? Where did the $300 + mil go?
The list goes on and on and on. Until they are no longer in control we will continue to get the rubber fist. Even Riechert has turned into a democrat.
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HAY-- I voted for Dino he won 3 times that b!tch only won once when you have hacks like we have in the king county and Seattle that can steal a election what do you do?
I believe we should monitor how much per hour its costing us for the groomer. Big Dawn is making enough $$$$$ to have sold his restraunt and just taken over the grooming.He is making a killing.
I have 3 sleds and a trailer.It would be a huge impact on my fuel money if they did up the price to 50.00 instead of leaving it at 30.00.
Does the money slide from year to year or does the groomer use up all the funds that year?
01mc800(dads sled)
02bars+2in.riser
slp pipe+ can.
98.summit.x.(wifes sled!)
3"riser.
95.summit.
hot dogger!!(my daugher loves it!)
use to be two...now its 4 place!
GO BIG OR GO HOME!!
I have 3 sleds and a trailer.It would be a huge impact on my fuel money if they did up the price to 50.00 instead of leaving it at 30.00.
Does the money slide from year to year or does the groomer use up all the funds that year?
01mc800(dads sled)
02bars+2in.riser
slp pipe+ can.
98.summit.x.(wifes sled!)
3"riser.
95.summit.
hot dogger!!(my daugher loves it!)
use to be two...now its 4 place!
GO BIG OR GO HOME!!
Sled Maniac, You Are Really Confused
You got to be kidding me, You think these groomers are making a killing??? Not true at all, Those machines cost up and over $200,000 and they brake just by looking at them, thru out the entire state. Have you looked at the price of diesel fuel????? Cost of wages, INSURANCE TO GROOM YOUR TRAILS, What if a sled hits the groomer???? Does it sound fund to be out there by yourself at midnight plugging around at 5 mph, GIVE ME A BRAKE, I have not figured out why they even want to be in this grooming business. At $30 per sled, in the next few years , you will have about 1/3 less grooming than you see right now. Do you or any of your family ski $ It cost 40 to 80 bucks per day for one peerson. If you cant afford another 20 bucks per sled for the year, you are in the wrong sport, AND to others of you. NONE OF OUR LICENSED FEE MONEY goes into the "general fund", ITS ALL DEDICATED SNOWMOBILE MONEY. This is closely monitored. Sure there is some waste in the systme, but not much, With 120 + snoparks thru out the state, and all the different grooming programs, it takes a lot of money to run. Just giving you all my thoughts from one who has been involved in the program for a long time.
You got to be kidding me, You think these groomers are making a killing??? Not true at all, Those machines cost up and over $200,000 and they brake just by looking at them, thru out the entire state. Have you looked at the price of diesel fuel????? Cost of wages, INSURANCE TO GROOM YOUR TRAILS, What if a sled hits the groomer???? Does it sound fund to be out there by yourself at midnight plugging around at 5 mph, GIVE ME A BRAKE, I have not figured out why they even want to be in this grooming business. At $30 per sled, in the next few years , you will have about 1/3 less grooming than you see right now. Do you or any of your family ski $ It cost 40 to 80 bucks per day for one peerson. If you cant afford another 20 bucks per sled for the year, you are in the wrong sport, AND to others of you. NONE OF OUR LICENSED FEE MONEY goes into the "general fund", ITS ALL DEDICATED SNOWMOBILE MONEY. This is closely monitored. Sure there is some waste in the systme, but not much, With 120 + snoparks thru out the state, and all the different grooming programs, it takes a lot of money to run. Just giving you all my thoughts from one who has been involved in the program for a long time.
I understand that the sled fee is kept for sleds, but what about the sales tax. Any of that stay with the sled budget? We do still need to pursue our fair share of gas tax money.
Also, I thought grooming @ Crystal springs was a contractor, but there was a State Parks dump truck, flat bed trailer and groomer there Tuesday unloading and grooming the ski/dog sled trail out of the west side. Who pays for that and is it the same kitty as the sled groomer?
Also, I thought grooming @ Crystal springs was a contractor, but there was a State Parks dump truck, flat bed trailer and groomer there Tuesday unloading and grooming the ski/dog sled trail out of the west side. Who pays for that and is it the same kitty as the sled groomer?
I expected that it came from some other source. I know you have to buy one of the special stickers for some goomed trails. Good thing the parking lot is cleared so they can have groomed trails.
Curious about the percenatage of closed sno-parks for motorized vs non-motorized spots. Are there any non-motorized sno-parks closed because of no plowing money like Green water, Price creek or Elk heights?
Curious about the percenatage of closed sno-parks for motorized vs non-motorized spots. Are there any non-motorized sno-parks closed because of no plowing money like Green water, Price creek or Elk heights?
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