Goggle Talk....need help

[diamonddave]

I've never paid much attention to goggle rec's on the forums however, I am finding myself defrosting my specs on my motor at all stops unless it's bluebird, (which never seems to happen for me around here.)

During these defrost's, my buddies don't seem to have these issues...

I've always worn the high end $$ Scott's with the dual shield and the flow thingy and they seem to work well until that 4th or 5th ride. Then it's all down hill.

I sweat pretty bad so that most likely has alot to do with it. I also use the velcro removal deals. Habit I guess.

So....what brands/models seem to fog up the least in poor conditions for a sweaty dude?

AND.... since I always carry a spare set....

What are the best for the flat light conditions???

I just think there has to be something better.

 

[Rush44]

Best flat light goggle colors are rose and amber..... yellow and blue seem to be the worst for me.

And it sounds like you just have a hot face. The old swimmers trick of spitting on the inside lenses and cleaning them that way also seems to help a bit.

 

[Raff_9001M]

Do you wear a balaclava? I used to and I sweat too much plus I don't think the Goggle can seal to your face as well. I am usually pretty comfortable not wearing a balaclava. On cold days I will wear a neck warmer around my chin to keep that warm. Has worked better. I have noticed that goggles seem to have a shelf life as well. Find a pro deal on goggles. I can usually get Smiths and Scotts for 50% off. I also have a goggle bag for under the hood to dry one out and then I will swap. Try a product called Cat Crap. That has worked for me in the past as well.

 

[Jlager]

Try any of the Smith Turbo Fan goggles. They have a small fan in them that will vent moisture. Sounds gimmicky but they work really well for fogging issues.

 

[SnowBaller]

I have a HJC helmet with a breath deflector and wear a balaclava.

I have 2 pairs of Oakley Crowbars and have a great luck with them. The oldest set being about 4 years old. Recently got a pair of Oakley Splices (next generation of the Crowbar), I haven't had a chance to use them yet but I see no reason why they should not preform just as good.

I know Oakleys are exspensive, but for me they just plain work. Plus they have a large selection of lense colors and most in high intensity or polarized finishes.

I've found the less you take off your goggles the less problems you have as well.

 

[Solby]

I have and do own 3 pairs smiths, 1 pair 509s, 1 pair dragons. Without a doubt I would buy more smiths with rose shaded lenses. I usually get the $60-$80 models and love them. Dragons are second best. 509s are good on nice days, but I have trouble fogging them.

 

[SnowBigDeal]

Do you wear a balaclava? I used to and I sweat too much plus I don't think the Goggle can seal to your face as well. I am usually pretty comfortable not wearing a balaclava. On cold days I will wear a neck warmer around my chin to keep that warm.

.X2 No more balaclava for me and it has helped a ton.

 

[milehighassassin]

Take a look at the HaberVision with Eliminator Fan.

All of our goggles are polarized with an exception of the Farro.

For low light I prefer the Optic Orange lens. Polarization will NOT help at all for super cloudy or overcast days. Polarization ONLY helps when there is enough light to cause glares. With that said it also will not hurt you in any way.

Avoid gray at ALL COSTS for snow. You lose contrast with gray on snow.

I generally recommend the Highline or Prima for most people. The Riva is a great as long as you don't have a HUGE head or big nose. The Avanti is a great goggle that is sized between the two of those. If you have a monster head get the Ouzo, or if you wear glasses underneath your goggles.


The Eliminator we make is different than a few other fans because it has an automatic moisture/humidity sensor in it which automatically turns on the fan BEFORE you start to fog. It also is an exhaust fan, meaning it pushes air out. Some fans pull air in and that means you can actually suck fine snow mist into your goggle. What I like about the Eliminator is that it allows you to keep your goggles on your face. If every time you stop you are taking your goggles off of your face/helmet you are creating an opportunity to put exterior moisture into the goggle/lens. If you keep the goggles on your face the inside will stay dry and the only moisture the fan will have to "eliminate" will be the sweat coming off your face. When you take them off and on, you can have snow fall in them, drop them in the snow, or maybe a buddy throws up a rooster at the wrong time, either way... on your face = dry.

The Eliminator has worked so well and is proven that several other brands of goggles are buying our Eliminator and putting their sticker on it. We own the patent and are the manufacture. It was also Dirt Bike Magazine's Product of the year last year.

HaberVision's founder Steve Haber has been in the optics business for over 35 years. They don't make cheap Chinese goggles. There is also a guarantee that you will like the product or you can exchange them out for another model/lens/color. If needed your money can be refunded (within a reasonable amount of time of course).

Right now all Eliminator goggles are 65% off of retail.
http://www.habervision.com/goggles/eliminatorgoggles.aspx?code=powderhound

Use coupon code ELIM65 at checkout. (not affinity code)

 

[milehighassassin]

And yes, look into what you are wearing. I make it my rule of thumb that when I leave the truck/trailer/trail, that I am cold. Later when I start doing the riding we enjoy, I will start using more energy and building up a sweat. If you are not cold when you leave, you are probably over dressed.

 

[newmy1]

You need a breath box in your helmet if you don't have one! I rarely wear a balaclava and have no issues, before breath box however I had same issues.

 

[CoyoteGirl]

I sweat pretty bad so that most likely has alot to do with it. I also use the velcro removal deals. Habit I guess.

This has more to do with it than we realize. Once I started wearing a very very vented helmet and taking off my balaclava 90% of my fogging issues went away. FWIW

 

[milehighassassin]

Klim F4 for the win for venting!

 

[Pertzbro]

I've had the same helmet and SAME goggles for over 10 years. Never cleaned the goggles either. I guess I just have good luck. I've only experienced slight fogging when sitting, but as soon as I get moving and air flowing through it clears right up. I think the biggest thing is keeping the goggles tight against your face and keeping your breath away from the goggles via a mask or some kind of breath box off the helmet.

 

[Pertzbro]

And yes, look into what you are wearing. I make it my rule of thumb that when I leave the truck/trailer/trail, that I am cold. Later when I start doing the riding we enjoy, I will start using more energy and building up a sweat. If you are not cold when you leave, you are probably over dressed.

I'm usually chilly whenever on trail or sitting awhile. As soon as I warm up or get too hot, just open the vents in the pants and jacket and you get instant cool air inside your jackets/pants. I also never wear anything on my head outside of the goggles and helmet. If you get a cold neck, look into a Nekkr - http://www.nekkr.com/Products.html

 

[diamonddave]

Cool, thanks for the responses. I might try a pair of those fan dealies.

I don't wear a clava 98% of the time. Only when it gets in the single digits which never happens around here.

Last weekend I put my gogg's (Smith's X1's ??) near the woodstove all night before the ride and actually wiped them down (very lightly) with some rain X (last minute attempt)

I was shocked at how "clean" they were and riding (a little tech btw) in 30 degree snowing, foggy weather, my fogging issues were almost gone.

Amazing what a little gear maintenance can doo. I guess it boils down to my sleds get all the loving and the gear doesn't.

 

[winter brew]

I've had a goggle fet-ish this year and have tried at least 4 different gogs.
This has been by FAR the best goggle for my gord...much less fogging and good fit for ME. I think fit is a huge issue as all our mellons are shaped different. The nose piece is removable.
I think the forward venting on these helps with the fogging, I can feel the air movement even at low speeds....just have to keep it clear of snow on those deep days. They are not a very expensive goggle either.
I have tried the Haber fans and they do help quite a bit but don't fit well in every goggle.


http://www.google.com/products/cata...=X&ei=7ltfT-z5FaeW2gXzgvyvCA&ved=0CIUBEPMCMAM#

 

[jacmmaxwell]

I just changed helmets and that helped a fair bit... I have the same trouble with fogging. I also droped the quick straps when switching helmets and they seal much better to my face. Yes they are more of a PITA but less fogging than before.

Often we will stop and some guys will leave there goggles on... I fog up almost right away.

Oddly enough Skidoo gave me a jacket to test, and it breaths awsome ( way better than my klim tomahawk ) enough that noticed less fogging in my goggles. It is also thinner than what I'm used to so that may help. It seems to vent less moisture up threw the neck of the jacket.

 

[Matte Murder]

I have found that the better the shape I am in the less my goggles fog and I have tried them all. Ride with really fit riders and they never even take their goggles off all day, even when you are digging out. Also, I tried the no balaclava and it worked well until my goggle turned into my sweat band and then they fogged up. I now where a really thin lightweight "beanie" inside my helmet. Under Armor or Helly Hansen and the Helly works really well. Keeps the sweat from getting my goggles wet and that has probably helped the most. The under hood mesh bag is awesome too. Swap out the wet goggles for dry and then dry out the wet, best accessory ever. I use Smith Snowmobile Goggles(good), High end Smith Ski Goggles with built in fans(good but not worth 3 times what other goggles cost, sorry Smith) and just got a pair of 509 goggles. No fan in the 509 and I think they worked better than anything else I have tried. In really flat light the high end Smith goggles with Ignitor lenses are great for visibility. Love the Quick straps too, put them on any goggle that will take them.