Goggle Options

[AWBaus]

So I decided to go from a BRP Modular helmet to Fox open faced because the BRP got way too hot..I'd love to hear some REAL WORLD OPINIONS about different goggle manufacturers. How they seal, comfort and most importantly fogging issues. I've done some research but am leaning towards the 509's 2009 model, Thanks in advance

 

[bdoe22]

first thing i'll say is everybody has different preferences on what works for them. i use a number of brands, but my favorite is the smith snow warp TI's. second is the 509 sinisters....havent tried the aviators though.

 

[rockin rmk]

I like HaberVision the best. They are a polarized lens and they work great in flat light. I have tried Oakley's and Scott's also. Did not like them as much as th HaberVisions.

 

[DragonSlayer1]

first thing i'll say is everybody has different preferences on what works for them. i use a number of brands, but my favorite is the smith snow warp TI's. second is the 509 sinisters....havent tried the aviators though.

I have to agree with the smiths. I usually take an extra pair when the others gets fogged up.

 

[Ryan-41]

I ride with Smith's and they are the best goggles I have ever had, they have never fogged up yet!! Those 509 Aviators look way cool too!!! Both companies make aweseome products!!

 

[MORSNO]

I love my 2nd generation 509 sinisters. They have a larger foam footprint leaving much less skin exposure. The hinged strap is also a great idea to keep the googles comfortably set on you face. I used the same lens all last year without any scratching, another cost saving factor.

 

[deerhorn]

It may just be me but I purchased the 509's last year and was extremely dissapointed. They do form a good seal, but the nose piece does not do anything, they fogged like crazy. I sent e-mails on more then one occasion to them because all I wanted was to buy a different colored lens and got no reply all season. The website to purchase from didn't offer a choice just to order lenses. I switched back to my Scott goggles after trying them on about 10 rides last year.

 

[Trax 2 Treadz]

We are Habervision dealers. A new product that Habervision has is the Eliminator.





This is a little device that has a built in humidity sensor and a fan. The rising humidity level is what causes fogging once the humidity gets to a certain level the fan kicks in. The fan creates the air flow we need to stay fog free. The air is vented out the top of the goggle so that it is not blowing in your eyes drying them out.

The Eliminator not only attaches easily to the Habervision line of goggles but most of our competitors goggles as well. Here is a list of what we know they do or do not fit on. Please keep in mind that this list is not all inclusive this is just what has been tested.

Eliminator Fitting Guide


Below are goggles we know the Eliminator will fit into. Some are quite easy to fit and others may require extra effort. If this is the case, we have provided tips.


This list is not complete. It is just goggles we have experience with to date. As we continue to find Eliminator compliant models, we will add them to the list.


Oakley®
•Crowbar
•O-Frame single lens
•O-Frame double lens (Remove lens first, install Eliminator, re-install lens)
• L-Frame
• Proven
• A-Frame (Will not fit. Interference with design elements on top of goggle)


Spy®
• Alloy
• Targa


Fox®
• Main


Scott®
• 80’s
• Voltage X
• Storm OTG


Marker®
• Striker Bolle®
• Chrono (Old Style) (Remove lens first, install Eliminator, re-install lens)
• Chrono Swat
• Futur
• Skullet (Remove lens first, install Eliminator, re-install lens)


Smith®
• Caribo
• Knowledge
• Io (will not fit)
• Phenom (Must offset left or right of center)
• Scope


Thor®
• Hero
• Enemy
• Bomber

The Eliminator mounts between the frame and lens of the goggle. It runs on a AAA battery. To install you simply unscrew the top poke the posts threw the foam on the top of the goggle and screw the top piece back down.

If you are interested in ordering or looking at their full line up please click on the link below:

http://www.habervision.com/default.aspx?code=

If you have any other questions about Habervision products please let me know.

 

[jason leckner]

fogging sux

i use the scott xi turbo with the burgondy lens. i have used lots of different goggles because i sweat and would steam up the lens and then i would get pissed..cause i could not see.then i ran into the scott rep in hamilton mt once at the yamaha dealer and after a long conversation he gave me a pair and said if these do not work send them back we will give you a different pair to try..so that was 3 seasons ago and i must say they do work..i use the quick strap with them,works awsome no fogging no frosting even when we road in below freezing temps..i guess its all about if you wanna look cool..or be comfy and warm..

 

[AWBaus]

I love my 2nd generation 509 sinisters. They have a larger foam footprint leaving much less skin exposure. The hinged strap is also a great idea to keep the googles comfortably set on you face. I used the same lens all last year without any scratching, another cost saving factor.

Thanks everyone for posting! Did you have any problems with the sinisters fogging up? thats my biggest problem right now coming from the modular..

 

[AWBaus]

I like HaberVision the best. They are a polarized lens and they work great in flat light. I have tried Oakley's and Scott's also. Did not like them as much as th HaberVisions.

Which HaberVisions did you go with? And what is the Major benefit to Polarized on snow? I've never had much experience with polarized because it blocks the heads up display in my car.

 

[MORSNO]

Thanks everyone for posting! Did you have any problems with the sinisters fogging up? thats my biggest problem right now coming from the modular..

I haven't had a problem...there are a ton of vents all around the lens. If you get heated up and start sweating like a pig when you stop, any lense will collect some moisture and will fog. I use quick straps and usually remove my goggles and/or helmet when I stop so I can talk to fellow riders.

 

[Trax 2 Treadz]

Which HaberVisions did you go with? And what is the Major benefit to Polarized on snow? I've never had much experience with polarized because it blocks the heads up display in my car.

In a nut shell polarization works by reducing glare. When we look at an image our eyes are taking in light rays from all angles. Our eyes only use the vertical rays to produce the image. Putting on a pair of polarized lenses whether they be goggles or glasses cuts out all the extra rays except the vertical ones which our eyes use giving us a sharper picture. For a more technical answer you can check out this link:

http://www.habervision.com/content/technology.html

The unique thing about the Habervision polarized lens is that our polarization works on an exact 180 degree angle so it only lets the exact vertical light in. Other manufacturers have varying degrees of polarization and some sun glasses actually have 2 different degrees of polarization in each lens. This can be the cause of eye fatigue and headaches.

 

[rockin rmk]

Which HaberVisions did you go with? And what is the Major benefit to Polarized on snow? I've never had much experience with polarized because it blocks the heads up display in my car.

I have the Prima googles. They fit and seal nice in the helmet no leaks and they do not fog up. Polarized makes a big difference in the flat light. You can see all the bumps and dips in the snow before you hit them. It also helps when it lightly snowing or cloudy brightens everything up a little. They are made by Steve Haber who made Bolle sun glasses.

 

[Frostbite]

Haber vision!

I have an entire closet of miscellaneous goggles and the Haber Vison goggles are the only ones I wear anymore. The polarized lenses make a huge difference.

Put a set of quick straps on them and take them off when stopped and you'll never see a fogged up lense again.

 

[pylon]

i use spy targas , they are awsome goggles . just make sure you pick a set of goggles that have double lenses . also check the prices of spare lenses some brands can be almost as much as a new pair of goggles

 

[sledneck_03]

i was going to get habervisions but i wanter bigger face foam. got 509s and they are great.......509s have polarized lenses as well so they are a better choice over the smiths and scotts.

 

[Rprecision]

It may just be me but I purchased the 509's last year and was extremely dissapointed. They do form a good seal, but the nose piece does not do anything, they fogged like crazy. I sent e-mails on more then one occasion to them because all I wanted was to buy a different colored lens and got no reply all season. The website to purchase from didn't offer a choice just to order lenses. I switched back to my Scott goggles after trying them on about 10 rides last year.

509's woked well on warmer days for me..........

I have a set of scotts and may by a set of smiths

best investment is a warmer for under the hood !

 

[Steep n Deep cat]

I take 3 pairs of goggles out whenever i ride just in case you never know when you will need them. My favorite are my Dragon's huge field of vision hard to fog but they were expensive probably 3x the smiths. Also on days were it is extra nasty i keep some yellow tinted safety glasses on me, saved my a** more than once.

 

[milehighassassin]

I like HaberVision the best. They are a polarized lens and they work great in flat light. I have tried Oakley's and Scott's also. Did not like them as much as th HaberVisions.

I'm glad you like them. I also sell HaberVision goggles and glasses. I am in Colorado if anyone near me (between Fort Collins and Eagle/Vail) would like to try a set, give me a shout. I have several demos, the majority of them are fitted with Eliminators. For those that are no close, go to the website:
HaberVision

Give them a try, if you don't like them, we'll refund your money back. Can't beat that huh? For most people I would recommend the Highline or Prima. They are the larger frame and lenses. They actually share a frame, but the lenses are a little different. The Highline has more curve to it.

The Riva is made for women and children for it is a little smaller.

For those that wear eye glasses we have the Ouzo, which is cut out on the side to make room for glasses, and of course we offer an optical insert which fits all of our goggles (even with the Eliminator). You can get that from us and take it to your optometrist to get Rx put in.

For those wanting thicker foam take a look at the MXT. I personally think the other goggles fit fine and no extra foam is needed. I can say I wouldn't be a rep unless I liked them. I wore HaberVision for 3 years before getting involved on the sales side.

Haber vision!

I have an entire closet of miscellaneous goggles and the Haber Vison goggles are the only ones I wear anymore. The polarized lenses make a huge difference.

Put a set of quick straps on them and take them off when stopped and you'll never see a fogged up lense again.

Glad you like them as well. I will recommend you try the Eliminator. I also used to be a quick strap junkie, but now I just use the Eliminator. Most people use quick straps so that when they stop they don't fog. With the Eliminator you can stop and let it do it's job. You just leave your helmet and goggles on. The biggest advantage beside pure convenience is that EVERY time you remove your goggles and helmet you risk introducing humidity/fog/water into the inside of the goggles. When the inside gets wet it is tough to prevent fogging. Keep it dry and you are money. Face it, it is generally snowing when you ride, you pull off your goggles and let them hang off your helmet and more than likely snow WILL end up on the inside.

i was going to get habervisions but i wanter bigger face foam. got 509s and they are great.......509s have polarized lenses as well so they are a better choice over the smiths and scotts.

Like I said above, give the Haber's a shot, if the foam is not thick enough for you, send them back and try the MXT which has thicker foam or you can get your money back. Our pricing can't be beat when comparing equals. With HaberVision you can get a quality lenses. These are NOT made in China. Steve Haber has been in the optics business for almost 30 years, he was the original founder of Bolle.

With Habervision you can get a polarized lenses and the Eliminator for the price of a non-polarized goggle from the other guys. Our prices won't be beat when comparing a similar product.

Feel free to contact me with any questions.

HaberVision