Freedom of speech .....RIP

[H2SNOW]

An 80 year old priest gets arrested for saying murdering a baby is wrong.

There are 2 issues here:

1)Freedom of speech

2)Abortion

The crime:

Father Norman Weslin was practicing of his right to freedom of speech, and did it in a peaceful fashion.

He objected to abortion on religious grounds.

He sang his favorite religious songs.

He was practicing his faith.

He said murdering innocent babies was wrong.

He violated no one’s rights to do what they wanted.

So what is the crime?

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On the flip side, this behavior is legal:

Protestors have the right to scream “F**K Bush, or F**k God in public.

Profanity is permitted now.

People have the right to slander, mock, lie, unfairly ridicule, and abuse their freedom of speech in public now, in order to intentionally harm others.

It is done all the time in Congress, on the Internet, and on TV.

Sexual talk, descriptions of sexual behavior, and immodest behavior is almost daily life now in public media.

There is no censure of this material.

Why are these behaviors permitted, but an 80 year old man cannot defend innocent life in a peaceful way?

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Problem- ????:

What is ironic is that this happened on a private Christian University Campus. Why were the police even there? .

What is more ironic is that a Christian University would allow a pro-death President on its campus, to honor him with a degree he did not earn,

then,

allow the abuse of one of its elders to be dragged off like a dog to jail for defending innocent life.

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No wonder the unbelievers mock us.

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Here is the real time footage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiz4tfjSuPc&feature=player_embedded


ABORTION IS MURDER !!
http://www.100abortionpictures.com/Aborted_Baby_Pictures_Abortion_Photos/

 

[blue fluff]

That's very disturbing. That was when Obama was speaking at Notre Dame, a Catholic University, as a man who has voted repeatedly that killing babies is OK.

I think they said it was "trespassing" (to justify the arrests). Ummmm, if everyone else walks onto a University campus, it's OK, but this wasn't?

First Article in the Bill of Rights of the Constitution of the United States, which is the supreme law of the land:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people to peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Nothing in there says you have to a permit to peaceably assemble. And aren't Universities supposed to be most tolerant of divergent viewpoints?

This is a good point from an article I found at Catholic.org

"This week probably marks the first time in the history of the University when individuals have been arrested on campus for exercising their Catholic convictions and praying a prayer that has been recited in their chapel millions of times since its founding in 1842. As of this writing, police have refused to set bail for any of those arrested."

I can't find evidence of a lawsuit anywhere.

 

[Stuck]

unbelievable

 

[sledin]

Still can't figure out why someone from Canada would care so much about the U.S!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[H2SNOW]

Still can't figure out why someone from Canada would care so much about the U.S!!!!!!!!!!!!!

because ..everything that happens there happens here ..how many times do I need to say this sh1t

and legalizing Abortion is fricken imoral and murder any questions ??

 

[m8magicandmystery]

Still can't figure out why someone from Canada would care so much about the U.S!!!!!!!!!!!!!

well the people in The U.S care about the people/issues in Iraq,Afghanistan,South Korea...etc etc etc..at least that is an impression i get ...so why can;t a Canadian care about a person/issues in the U.S...??

 

[sledin]

well the people in The U.S care about the people/issues in Iraq,Afghanistan,South Korea...etc etc etc..at least that is an impression i get ...so why can;t a Canadian care about a person/issues in the U.S...??

I am in the U.S. and I don't care about Iraq,south Korea etc!Care??Come on now.

 

[mtnpull]

Unfortunately this country is losing it's morals. We live in a time where evil looks like good and good looks like evil. Makes it all the more important to stand up for what is right. Thanks for the post.

 

[m8magicandmystery]

I am in the U.S. and I don't care about Iraq,south Korea etc!Care??Come on now.

well many of your countrymen do...they are proving it with their lifes...as well as both our countrymen in Afganistan..but back to the thread...the issue is infectious and has no boundry..

 

[hottank]

The constitution says we can, But the Goverment says we can not!!!

 

[Gainster]

The constitution says we can, But the Goverment says we can not!!!

Thank You!

 

[AmericanOutlaw]

Still can't figure out why someone from Canada would care so much about the U.S!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If your next door neighbor was losing his mind and acting irrational wouldn't you care?

 

[POLZIN]

An 80 year old priest gets arrested for saying

No wonder the unbelievers mock us.

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Unfortunately this country is losing it's morals. We live in a time where evil looks like good and good looks like evil. Makes it all the more important to stand up for what is right. Thanks for the post.

I think you both nailed it ! I am not at all a man of faith but i do have certain issues with abortion and this guy should not have been arrested and at Catholic College no less!WTF is that ! It does really look bad for the religous establishment and IMO this is an image that religion well deserves . I have no problem with individual faith but the churches are as corrupt as the goverment and have been getting away with is for 2000 years. I have seen more biggotry and hipocracy from with the flock than from any other group of people I have ever be associated with. In short I think this country has lost its way from simply following its govermet and religious leaders.


Back to the point of the thread ! This is clearly a case of our rights being trampled on and we should not take it anymore ! If a preist can get arrested like that whats next ? DARK DAYS ARE COMING!

 

[POLZIN]

If your next door neighbor was losing his mind and acting irrational wouldn't you care?

HAHA! My neighbor is a politician ! Ya I'm concerned

 

[94fordguy]

Now that's ****ed up...


This nation is officially screwed

 

[snocro]

well priest are getting arrested their goes are right to free will and a free life. we are not different than one of those countries we're sticking our noses in trying to "set them straight" but we cant even control our own ground. this is Fing unbelievable.

 

[Spur]

I call that prophecy being fulfilled.

It seems to me like a lot of prophecy is being fulfilled at an Increasingly alarming rate these days.

 

[H2SNOW]

I call that prophecy being fulfilled.

It seems to me like a lot of prophecy is being fulfilled at an Increasingly alarming rate these days.

"O" 64 !!!! Bingo !

 

[swampwater]

Still can't figure out why someone from Canada would care so much about the U.S!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because people like you don"t!!!!

Back to the point of the thread ! This is clearly a case of our rights being trampled on and we should not take it anymore ! If a preist can get arrested like that whats next ? DARK DAYS ARE COMING!
They are allready here, it's time the sheeple wake up or live in chains forever!!

The ones arrested looked to be University police? The fact that Notre Dame allowed that devil to even enter the campus says alot about the position of the university especially if the arrestors were university police.
Great thread H2, I'm going to follow up and se4e what I can learn about the incident. Swampy



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[blue fluff]

Dr. Alan Keyes and "Roe" of Roe V Wade (real name Norma McCorvey) were also arrested (Norma is now a staunch defender of Life and admitted she lied in the whole R v W thing)

I actually called the Thomas More Law Center (whom I support) today and asked the lady about it because I hadn't heard about any lawsuit. She told me some interesting stuff.

This was her explanation: It is her understanding that those arrested had legal representation already so she didn't believe anyone needed representation (like Father Norman Weslin).

Notre Dame had made it abundantly clear that they did not want protesters on that day and Notre Dame is a private University, so the trespassing issue was valid (by their standards). The protesters could have protested on the sidewalk, but chose not to.

So my guess is that they were trying to make a statement and draw attention to their cause? It is VERY disturbing to see the elderly Father be arrested (or any of the other peaceful protesters for that matter) and I'm disgusted that Notre Dame would prevent peaceful protests. So the Constitution only applies on public property?

I couldn't find corroboration for this, but she has no reason to lie or spin because TMLC is a "not-for-profit public interest law firm dedicated to the defense and promotion of the religious freedom of Christians, time-honored family values, and the sanctity of human life. Our purpose is to be the sword and shield for people of faith, providing legal representation without charge to defend and protect Christians and their religious beliefs in the public square. We achieve this goal principally through litigation, seeking out significant cases, consistent with our mission, where our expertise can be of service to others. We also defend and promote faith and family through media and educational efforts. Above all, the lawyers of the Thomas More Center seek to meet the highest moral and ethical standards of our Christian faith and our legal profession."

I do find it interesting though the comment from a catholic website: "This week probably marks the first time in the history of the University when individuals have been arrested on campus for exercising their Catholic convictions and praying a prayer that has been recited in their chapel millions of times since its founding in 1842."