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You sure you know what your talking about, it was the first diesel to 350hp and 650tq which is still the benchmark for trucks. Just FYI
Ford tested, Ford engineered, Ford built
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You sure you know what your talking about, it was the first diesel to 350hp and 650tq which is still the benchmark for trucks. Just FYI
my 06 duramax is 365hp,stock, of course the new lmm motor with all the emissions crap is less and gets worse mileage
Yes, those were the numbers, but the tests I read said that it didn't produce on the road as good as those numbers reflected. As someone else stated, the 2007-present GM's have better numbers.
From Popular Mechanics. See article HERE
I think the weight of the truck hurt it, but look at the towing numbers in that article. This is not the article I have at home, but it has the same results. I think the Ford is a good truck and hopefully the new engine is better (there is a reason they are changing so quickly - again).
A certified Ford mechanic told me about the fires from the particulate filter.
Ford 6.7
Exhaust in the "V", New turbo design? Graphite impregnated block? .....This is a lot of new technology in a Diesel truck. Good luck Blue Oval
Exhaust in the "V", New turbo design? Graphite impregnated block? .....This is a lot of new technology in a Diesel truck. Good luck Blue Oval
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Its obvious you know very little about the big three other than what you read here and there or what your buddy told you. The ford is the heaviest out of all three, by over 1k lbs! Yes it will suffer a little because of that but thats the price you pay when you get get a truck thats well built.
As for the diesel mechanic guy whatever, it was a simple computer glitch on the very first run of trucks produced, nothing wrong with the dpf. But as a tech he would of known that.
There not switching motors because there is something wrong with the 6.4, but if you knew anything about diesels you would of known that.
Heres some good reading for you guys that dont believe in the 6.4
http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/6-7-liter-general-discussion/177398-6-4-killed-me.html
As for the diesel mechanic guy whatever, it was a simple computer glitch on the very first run of trucks produced, nothing wrong with the dpf. But as a tech he would of known that.
There not switching motors because there is something wrong with the 6.4, but if you knew anything about diesels you would of known that.
Heres some good reading for you guys that dont believe in the 6.4
http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/6-7-liter-general-discussion/177398-6-4-killed-me.html
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with all the problems diesels have i'll keep my f150
You are right, I'm not a diesel engineer so I have to rely on some research and read up on this stuff. You are taking it too personal. Obvious you bleed Ford. I do work with some mechanics that have seen their fare share of issues with the DPF (not just the Ford). I've been looking for a good diesel truck before the DPF for that reason. I realize that the Ford is so heavy and that it hurts its towing. That contributes to numbers not as good as the GM and Dodge.
Polaris had a simple "glitch" on their 800's and I'm pretty sure that those guys are not too happy. Why would Ford guys be happy if they had a "glitch" that would catch their lawn or 2 year old toddler on fire?
They all have issues, don't be so emotional. I would buy a Ford and might if that diesel motor (and truck package) is better than the last couple years.
Turbo lag on the 6.4 is terrible. I thought the twin turbo was supposed to be the solution to this problem.
When mine is loaded heavy you wouldn't dare try to dart into traffic, from a dead stop. Even unloaded the hesitation can be scary.
When mine is loaded heavy you wouldn't dare try to dart into traffic, from a dead stop. Even unloaded the hesitation can be scary.
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I dont bleed ford by any means, i like their 'truck' thats for sure. To be honest this is the first decent motor they have had especially for guys that like to mod. The 6.0 was a pile of junk and the 7.3 was gutless but ran forever and i woulnt of bought either of them if you paid me to do it. I am a huge cummins fan and if i could have a built cummins in my F350 i would without question, i just hate the truck they put around it. So until my motor blows i'll rock the 6.4.
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They are laggy. bout' as bad as the Duramax I had.
I thought the sequential turbo's were to solve that as well, but?
Still would not trade this truck for any other out there, period. If I thought there was a better truck on the market, I would own it.
My 07' Dodge will be going down the road as soon as I can afford to upgrade it. It's been a great run with the Cummins, but you can keep the Dodge they put around it. It's crap!
I came off several F150s and wouldnt go back. Mileage is about the same and havent had a prblem yet. The extra weight is nice with a tempermental load thats trying to push you around.
In my opinion the lag is a computer thing. I drove a very early 08 that didnt have the lag of my job 3. Also with my banks six gun on setting 4 the lag is pretty much gone. I wonder if it was done to save on the drivetrain.
In my opinion the lag is a computer thing. I drove a very early 08 that didnt have the lag of my job 3. Also with my banks six gun on setting 4 the lag is pretty much gone. I wonder if it was done to save on the drivetrain.
I agree but I'm still on my first motor while my friends with chevs and dodges have blown there new motors in there half tons.... If I were to buy a truck it would be a 06-07 Dmax for sure( If I could afford it)
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I wish I would have kept mine and just built the tranny......
On the other hand, besides the price, this new one just flat rocks over my 02'. And gets better mileage!
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That may be practical in AK? Here in CO we are subject to diesel emissions in the fron range of the state, And if you use your truck for business and have to obey DOT regulations, removing the DPF and EGR would be a big fine.
My cummins has 290K miles, all I've ever done is change the fluids and replaced the tranny a few times.
I actually sat in on a class for the new emissions done by a guy from Mack. He said that the price per gallon or pint has not been established. He expected about $2.00 /gallon or so if I remember right.
The big cost and problem with Urea is the stations that will provide it. Any public diesel station will have to provide urea. The problem is that it has to be kept warm in the cold so these stations will have to have an expensive upgrade done. Several stations will just move away from diesel and only provide gasoline. That will make it more difficult to find diesel in less populated areas. In addition to this, we are starting to see dual EGT's in more motors.
The guy who did the class also told me that more companies are going to gasoline motors in big trucks because of all of these issues. This nation's government is slowly eliminating diesel cars. What a shame...Europe has a ton of diesel vehicles that won't make emissions here.
Obviously what whoever is posting has is the best..Any body whos pulled with a newer ford knows they pull great.. thousand pounds is hardly noticable
Actually finally got some details on the urea atleast for the ag side at a farm show from agco his already using it. Not surehow the auto side will compare but its call ad blue and runs about even with the cost of a gallon of diesel. Its 30percent urea dilluted the rest of the way with water and will be used at a rate of about 3 percent of your fuel consumption. Still sounds like alot of hassle.
