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Blowerguy
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I live in the far NE corner of wyoming. I can't buy anything around here reasonable so I get on the internet.
I found Roger's Sport Center in Cody. '08 Summit X 154 w/ 1300 miles for $5500.00 Sweet deal right?
I call, talk to Justin - everything sounds cool. I say I'll send a deposit of $3K and try to pick up the sled within a couple weeks. My wife fails to mail the deposit in 2 days, and I decide I will just mail the check for the $5500. Couple days later, my buddies want to take a trip and say they'll drive if I pay for fuel. I'm thinking 1 day down early, ride a few hours in the bighorns and come back...
I call Justin @ the dealer. I'll be down tomorrow. He already said they had went through the clutch, and it was A-OK ready to go. If my check doesn't show up, I'll write you a new one. My wife, being smart, says I should take 2 checks along...
We start driving down. My other buddy has been thinking about getting a XP and then says, "guys, I'll have to buy a new sled if I want to ride today, I forgot my tether!" Sweet! I might get a free cover out of this...
We get down there @ 9:30 - tells us to come back in 30 minutes, should be ready to sign papers. We come back...
Lie #1 Sled isn't ready to go.
Lie #2 Sled isn't an "X" model, "our mistake, it has "X" sidepanels" I'm told
Justin says they will throw on a can to offset the sled not being an X model. I finally say OK, and my buddy starts talking about getting one of their other '08 Ski Doo's... We find another sled on their website in his price range, but it's all torn apart. Justin makes it known that the big wheel kit might not go with the sled...ok, whatever.
Something doesn't seem right here at all. By now we are getting close to noon. I spot an '08 summit X missing it's side panels. It's a 163 what I really wanted. I quiz my salesman Justin about that one (thinking of my buddy) and we find out it would take a full day to get that one ready to sell/buy/ride. Justin stated earlier that they don't hardly ever trade for sleds that have over 2,000 miles on them. This sled has 3300 miles. By now we are wondering what kind of hole in the wall dealer we have driven 5 hours to get to...
We continue to pace the floor until about 1 in the afternoon. I B.S. the VERY NICE MECHANICS in the back while they work on my sled. I am a dirtbiker/car guy - willing to soak up anything I can about the new hobby I'm getting into. Finally the mechanic says "we have to powerwash the sled" and I'm thinking well, the day is wasted anyways, whatever. 20 minutes rolls by and I finally go back to see what is taking so long.
THE MECHANIC FIRES UP THE SLED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN FRONT OF ME.
Lie #3 - sled has 1000 more miles than advertised.
Lie #4 - they often trade sleds with more than 2,000 miles
The F'ing sled has 2300+ miles not the 1300 miles that I'm supposed to be getting. I'm instantly pissed. I bitch at the mechanic, saying it was supposed to be 1) ready to go 2) be a summit X model 3) have 1300 miles. The mechanic then tells me "you can't believe anything Justin tells you"
I walk back into the sales floor, patiently wait for Justin to finish yaking with some guys up front. "We've got another problem, the sled is supposed to have 1300 miles not 2300. I drove a long ways to get a low mileage sled. I could have driven 10 miles and bought an '07 with the same miles and $3500 in aftermarket goodies FOR $5000!!!!. So now what?"
Justin stammers about how he told me about how it had a new engine. "I told you about how we update all the '08s because of the crank problems"
Lie #5 - never told me about having engine work done.
The girl who works up front must have caught on how this was going downhill quickly, soon the boss (owner?) walks in - she must have called him and told him to come soon. "Justin, what do we have going on with this sled?"
Lie #6 - I come to find out due to some "problems" with the website they have already sold this '08 summit X 154 and they just found out that morning they had a "mix up"
Now, I'm obviously pissed. The owner, says he'll sell the sled for $5000. So, now I'm thinking I should walk out, but I need a sled, I want an XP chassis, and that's still a pretty good deal, JUST HAS HIGH MILES arrrrgh! Keep in mind I've already signed paperwork, and my 1st check!
So, I say if you throw in a cover for $5000 I'll take it. Finally I go back out to load my sled that is sitting next to a '08 Summit X missing it's side covers.... The sidecovers on my sled look like hell, and obviously came off this summit X. This infuriates me, but I load it and just shut the hell up.
Then they struggled for 1 1/2 hours programming a $30.00 tether to a '98 ski doo sled for my buddy...
Finally we leave around 3 PM.
It's one thing to have a liar salesman. I can expect some of that. Switching sidepanels to try and cover it up is another - but being the boss, and coming up with excuses for your lying cheat of a salesman puts you in a league of scum.
/rant.
We did end up staying in Cody that night, and then taking "oh, it's a short drive to Cooke City" 2 hour drive to Cooke. Snow was great and I quickly learned how to flick my sled around. It was my 5th time on a snowmobile I had bought a '02 summit X, rode it for a day and spent 4 minutes on my buddies '10 summit.
I look forward to learning about places to ride, sleds, and people. Sorry for bashing a dealer here, I just couldn't help but share my experience.
I found Roger's Sport Center in Cody. '08 Summit X 154 w/ 1300 miles for $5500.00 Sweet deal right?
I call, talk to Justin - everything sounds cool. I say I'll send a deposit of $3K and try to pick up the sled within a couple weeks. My wife fails to mail the deposit in 2 days, and I decide I will just mail the check for the $5500. Couple days later, my buddies want to take a trip and say they'll drive if I pay for fuel. I'm thinking 1 day down early, ride a few hours in the bighorns and come back...
I call Justin @ the dealer. I'll be down tomorrow. He already said they had went through the clutch, and it was A-OK ready to go. If my check doesn't show up, I'll write you a new one. My wife, being smart, says I should take 2 checks along...
We start driving down. My other buddy has been thinking about getting a XP and then says, "guys, I'll have to buy a new sled if I want to ride today, I forgot my tether!" Sweet! I might get a free cover out of this...
We get down there @ 9:30 - tells us to come back in 30 minutes, should be ready to sign papers. We come back...
Lie #1 Sled isn't ready to go.
Lie #2 Sled isn't an "X" model, "our mistake, it has "X" sidepanels" I'm told
Justin says they will throw on a can to offset the sled not being an X model. I finally say OK, and my buddy starts talking about getting one of their other '08 Ski Doo's... We find another sled on their website in his price range, but it's all torn apart. Justin makes it known that the big wheel kit might not go with the sled...ok, whatever.
Something doesn't seem right here at all. By now we are getting close to noon. I spot an '08 summit X missing it's side panels. It's a 163 what I really wanted. I quiz my salesman Justin about that one (thinking of my buddy) and we find out it would take a full day to get that one ready to sell/buy/ride. Justin stated earlier that they don't hardly ever trade for sleds that have over 2,000 miles on them. This sled has 3300 miles. By now we are wondering what kind of hole in the wall dealer we have driven 5 hours to get to...
We continue to pace the floor until about 1 in the afternoon. I B.S. the VERY NICE MECHANICS in the back while they work on my sled. I am a dirtbiker/car guy - willing to soak up anything I can about the new hobby I'm getting into. Finally the mechanic says "we have to powerwash the sled" and I'm thinking well, the day is wasted anyways, whatever. 20 minutes rolls by and I finally go back to see what is taking so long.
THE MECHANIC FIRES UP THE SLED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN FRONT OF ME.
Lie #3 - sled has 1000 more miles than advertised.
Lie #4 - they often trade sleds with more than 2,000 miles
The F'ing sled has 2300+ miles not the 1300 miles that I'm supposed to be getting. I'm instantly pissed. I bitch at the mechanic, saying it was supposed to be 1) ready to go 2) be a summit X model 3) have 1300 miles. The mechanic then tells me "you can't believe anything Justin tells you"
I walk back into the sales floor, patiently wait for Justin to finish yaking with some guys up front. "We've got another problem, the sled is supposed to have 1300 miles not 2300. I drove a long ways to get a low mileage sled. I could have driven 10 miles and bought an '07 with the same miles and $3500 in aftermarket goodies FOR $5000!!!!. So now what?"
Justin stammers about how he told me about how it had a new engine. "I told you about how we update all the '08s because of the crank problems"
Lie #5 - never told me about having engine work done.
The girl who works up front must have caught on how this was going downhill quickly, soon the boss (owner?) walks in - she must have called him and told him to come soon. "Justin, what do we have going on with this sled?"
Lie #6 - I come to find out due to some "problems" with the website they have already sold this '08 summit X 154 and they just found out that morning they had a "mix up"
Now, I'm obviously pissed. The owner, says he'll sell the sled for $5000. So, now I'm thinking I should walk out, but I need a sled, I want an XP chassis, and that's still a pretty good deal, JUST HAS HIGH MILES arrrrgh! Keep in mind I've already signed paperwork, and my 1st check!
So, I say if you throw in a cover for $5000 I'll take it. Finally I go back out to load my sled that is sitting next to a '08 Summit X missing it's side covers.... The sidecovers on my sled look like hell, and obviously came off this summit X. This infuriates me, but I load it and just shut the hell up.
Then they struggled for 1 1/2 hours programming a $30.00 tether to a '98 ski doo sled for my buddy...
Finally we leave around 3 PM.
It's one thing to have a liar salesman. I can expect some of that. Switching sidepanels to try and cover it up is another - but being the boss, and coming up with excuses for your lying cheat of a salesman puts you in a league of scum.
/rant.
We did end up staying in Cody that night, and then taking "oh, it's a short drive to Cooke City" 2 hour drive to Cooke. Snow was great and I quickly learned how to flick my sled around. It was my 5th time on a snowmobile I had bought a '02 summit X, rode it for a day and spent 4 minutes on my buddies '10 summit.
I look forward to learning about places to ride, sleds, and people. Sorry for bashing a dealer here, I just couldn't help but share my experience.