Ecoboost+Trails West (Burandt)

[meathooker]

WTF are you talking about? The OP is talking about a bumper pull, and the Burandt package doesn't add all that much weight to it.

Exactly my point, it doesn't add weight so why bother listing it?? Lol

Cracks me up when people differentiate limited edition models ( sleds, trucks, trailers) needlessly.

My smart *** remarks aside I wouldn't hesitate using an ecoboost to pull that trailer. I used my 5.3l silverado to pull our 24' enclosed quite a bit, never had an issue. Took it up in the mtns next (dirt roads, slick etc) and it handled the weight great. Trailer brakes are a must though. I have a f250 now only bc I started towing my race car a lot so I thought I'd give the 3/4 ton a try. Love it but my next truck could very likely be an f150 ecoboost. Perfect truck for guys on the fence between 1/2 and 3/4 tons.

 

[Goinboardin]

I found these numbers when I was throwing out papers today.

2013 Vortec 6L Crew 2500 - 6434# Max Payload 3066#
2013 Duramax - 7294# Max Payload 2706#
2013 Eco - 4925# (I believe that was with the 6.5 box, crew) Max Pay 2310#

The max payload of the Eco is only 396# less than the Duramax. That number surprised me.

It also surprised me the Duramax is 2369# heavier than the Eco.

I'm pretty sure that curb weight is for the lightest 4x4 setup available, like NA V6, reg cab short box or something. A crew cab eco 4x4 is probably closer to 6000lbs. And the payload capacity for eco is anywhere from 1300 (crew cab 4x4 (w/ soft springs?)) to 3100 (reg cab 2x4 with 8200lb GVWR package and max tow). Here's a useful link: http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/specifications/payload/

 

[Coldfinger]

I'm pretty sure that curb weight is for the lightest 4x4 setup available, like NA V6, reg cab short box or something. A crew cab eco 4x4 is probably closer to 6000lbs. And the payload capacity for eco is anywhere from 1300 (crew cab 4x4 (w/ soft springs?)) to 3100 (reg cab 2x4 with 8200lb GVWR package and max tow). Here's a useful link: http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/specifications/payload/

You're right. I looked again and couldn't find the crew cab Eco weights.
The GM Std Cab 4x4 8' box 6.0L = 5962#
The GM Std Cab 4x4 8' box Duramax = 6821#
Eco Std Cab 4x4 = 4925#

Looks like for GM you add 473# by going to crew cab with a 6.5' box. Could probably assume close to that for the Eco.

 

[GlennRMK]

My F150 Supercrew 4x4 the 5.5 ft box with airbags, tonneau cover, oversize tires, and some extra stuff in the cab (tire chains, tow straps, tie downs, tools, etc) weighs right at 6000 lbs.

 

[SSWIM]

NO, the Ecoboost is NOT a 6.7 Super Duty. But it WILL pull your trailer just fine. Have friends who pull their 4 place enclosed and have had great luck with the little 3.5. We have some pretty fair grades here and the 3.5 is amazing for what it is. Oh yea, and the track record regarding the 3.5s. They have been VERY reliable.

Sam

 

[AZ800]

No experience with the Eco towing, but it will do better than any other stock gasser at altitude because it's forced induction. You'll only lose a few % overall vs 3% per 1000' alt.
Regarding the chassis, I have a '11 F150 work truck 5.0 that I towed the p!ss out of last year. Plenty of 12-14k lb flat deck loads. The truck with pos P rated tires pumped up to 60 psi handled the load well, BUT the rear suspension is very light. How Ferd estimates 3000lb payload in their BS commercials is beyond me! Creative advertising at its best!
Get some good LT tires (will help with sway if yours has P tires) and something to shore up the @ss end of the truck. Overloads, air bags, Timbrens, any of those will do the trick.
The chassis, brakes, trans (t/h mode and downshifting/grade braking) are about the best I've seen on a 1/2 ton..............and I'm not a FOrd guy.

 

[Slednoggin23]

No experience with the Eco towing, but it will do better than any other stock gasser at altitude because it's forced induction. You'll only lose a few % overall vs 3% per 1000' alt.
Regarding the chassis, I have a '11 F150 work truck 5.0 that I towed the p!ss out of last year. Plenty of 12-14k lb flat deck loads. The truck with pos P rated tires pumped up to 60 psi handled the load well, BUT the rear suspension is very light. How Ferd estimates 3000lb payload in their BS commercials is beyond me! Creative advertising at its best!
Get some good LT tires (will help with sway if yours has P tires) and something to shore up the @ss end of the truck. Overloads, air bags, Timbrens, any of those will do the trick.
The chassis, brakes, trans (t/h mode and downshifting/grade braking) are about the best I've seen on a 1/2 ton..............and I'm not a FOrd guy.

They are referring to a regular cab long bed (8') with the heavy duty payload package.

 

[summitriders36]

I pull my Trails West 20ft. with a 2009 Jeep JK Wrangler. I've had 3 sleds in it and still pulled it OK. The Jeep doen't have any power mods either (OK it does have an aftermarket intake but that doesn't do too much). I equipped the Jeep with a brake control and run the trailer with a weight distributing hitch. If my V-6 Jeep will pull the 20ft. BP your Eco-Boost will do just fine. BTW my trailer is from the first ever production run at Trails West. They have found ways to make the trailer a bit lighter since then (not a lot but a little).

 

[nyal]

I have 40000 miles on my 11 EB. (Crew cab, short bed, tow max). I came from a 1 ton cummins mega cab. I love my EB. I tow a small enclosed work trailer every day, Maybe 2500lbs totally loaded, dont even know it is there. I tow a 20 foot Mirage, 3 sleds, 120 miles each direction when sledding. The Truck does awesome. I am not one of those guys trying to compansate for something so I dont have the need to race up the hills, but I have found that I can tow any hill that I have traveled at any speed I want with this truck and the 20' trailer and 3 sleds. My only complaint is that the miledge does drop off considerably at freeway speeds, When toweing, but show me a truck that doesnt. Just sayin.