Drinking age.............

[POLZIN]

So you've been caught before? j/k

I don't know anyone that has been caught so i didn't know, I just assumed(sorry) that since mary jane is such a 'horrible and intolerable substance' that you would get jail time for dealing.

Nope ! Never ! But I dont advertise the fact publicly like many do ! I am a clean cut self employeed business man so most never assume !I dont deal so opportunity for trouble is limited !

Really the only difference is instead of going home and having a beer . I smoke a joint!

 

[Mafesto]

Then it's settled!

18 it shall be!

 

[danby]

just to add to the fire along with going to war for your country and getting married and being tried as an adult at 18 you can also be a god dam **** star if you want to and that being said the drinking age being lowered to 18 is a no brainer just hurry up and do it. my .02

 

[danby]

in case people dont know what i am saying in the **** part there are alot of four letter words out there, i mean a p*rn star lol

 

[powdersledder]

You cant say **** on the forum anymore? WTF?

 

[Mafesto]

You cant say **** on the forum anymore? WTF?

**** no!
You can't ****ing say **** without getting your *** censored.
What the ****?

 

[powdersledder]

I understand censoring F,B and D but a$$ an P*rn?

 

[Mafesto]

Seriously though.
There are alot of ****ing kids peering in on us.
They don't need to see that damn profanity ****.
So I say....**** it! Censor away!

 

[AkHockey10]

if they lower or raise the drinking age....it wont really matter 'cause, there will still be drunk underage peeps, LOL.

imo, it should stay at 21, like i said earlier.

 

[Meatman]

doesnt matter if you lower or raise it. I was brought up to work hard and play hard. It's all about how you handle it. I was brought up to 'learn how to drink'. I'm not retarded about it and I know my limits. My son will be the same way. You can't just turn a kid loose on a subject such as this to learn for himself. Not only could he destroy himself but potentially you, the father, also. However, trained in the actions of drinking I believe once can become aware of the dangers that alcohol can bring.

When you start potty training you dont just take their diaper off and turn them loose and if they piss on the floor, rub their nose in it and beat them with the sunday paper, it's a process. This is also a process along the same lines. You're not gonna send your kid out at 18 years old with a fifth of jack and tell him good luck.

 

[justadude]

Did you notice what time you made that posting??

The fact that anyone can grow it and they could not control it is one of the reasons it is not legal. like I said its about $$$ nothing else. Look at the pharmacutical industry they have salesmen for drugs that have dozens of severe side affects but you can go to jail for a joint! makes zero sense at all.

 

[justadude]

+100%

doesnt matter if you lower or raise it. I was brought up to work hard and play hard. It's all about how you handle it. I was brought up to 'learn how to drink'. I'm not retarded about it and I know my limits. My son will be the same way. You can't just turn a kid loose on a subject such as this to learn for himself. Not only could he destroy himself but potentially you, the father, also. However, trained in the actions of drinking I believe once can become aware of the dangers that alcohol can bring.

When you start potty training you dont just take their diaper off and turn them loose and if they piss on the floor, rub their nose in it and beat them with the sunday paper, it's a process. This is also a process along the same lines. You're not gonna send your kid out at 18 years old with a fifth of jack and tell him good luck.

 

[shortstop20]

But, this statement is also coming from a former psychotic drunkard metalhead dude that drank entirley too much during that time perdiod of his life(

So you're part of the reason why the legal age is 21 now? Sorry but I have a bad attitude towards people that try to pick a fight everytime they get drunk.

 

[catcollector]

I say 18, then it is not such a big deal when they are at college.

 

[brushwolf]

Wrong!Generally speaking most get a 700.00 fine for the first offence! at least thats what it is around here !

And with the time spent investigating, jailing, court cost's and all you think that 700.00 covers it?

 

[brushwolf]

p,s, I also think that it should be 18 yrs old since even a 16 or17 yrs old can be tried as an adult to take responsibility for their own actions. Where do the politico's think that it's alright to be taxed, held legally reponsible for your actions, go die for your country and still not be responsible enough to have a drink..........


I also believe that a first offense dui should carry a minimum of 30 days in jail.

 

[POLZIN]

And with the time spent investigating, jailing, court cost's and all you think that 700.00 covers it?

Actually more often than not its just a ticket these days! this is likley the reason why "profit " . That and the fact that Meth heads and drunk drivers have the jails overcrowded . AT least that the way it is around here But this is one of the worst DUI areas in the country!

And in This part of NM first offence DUI comes w/28 days mandatory .

 

[Sturgis Sledder]

There are MANY studies out there about brain development and alcohol.

Brain changes significantly after age 18, says Dartmouth research

"The brain of an 18-year-old college freshman is still far from resembling the brain of someone in their mid-twenties," says Bennett. "When do we reach adulthood? It might be much later than we traditionally think."



Another:

Alcohol and the adolescent brain.

While the overall size of the brain increases little beyond early childhood, important structural and functional changes take place as one progresses from childhood to adulthood (Giedd et al., 1999). Recent evidence suggests that, as a result of the changes in brain function that occur during adolescence, alcohol affects adolescents differently than it affects adults.

I was in the military and have heard the argument "Old enough to die for your country but not old enough to drink." Which BTW is as relevant as "Old enough to bleed - Old enough to breed.". There are kids that are 17 in the military and they can't drink. The largest segment of the population that falls victim to binge drinking is 18 - 25 year olds and this is with 18 - 21 year olds doing it illegally, how many more would do it if drinking were legal?

 

[brushwolf]

There are MANY studies out there about brain development and alcohol.

Brain changes significantly after age 18, says Dartmouth research

"The brain of an 18-year-old college freshman is still far from resembling the brain of someone in their mid-twenties," says Bennett. "When do we reach adulthood? It might be much later than we traditionally think."


Well then, other responsibilities and consequences ahould be adjutsed to match the criteria. I would at least like to see some consistency or is that too much to ask.
Another:

Alcohol and the adolescent brain.

While the overall size of the brain increases little beyond early childhood, important structural and functional changes take place as one progresses from childhood to adulthood (Giedd et al., 1999). Recent evidence suggests that, as a result of the changes in brain function that occur during adolescence, alcohol affects adolescents differently than it affects adults.

I was in the military and have heard the argument "Old enough to die for your country but not old enough to drink." Which BTW is as relevant as "Old enough to bleed - Old enough to breed.". There are kids that are 17 in the military and they can't drink. The largest segment of the population that falls victim to binge drinking is 18 - 25 year olds and this is with 18 - 21 year olds doing it illegally, how many more would do it if drinking were legal?

Well then, other responsibilities and consequences ahould be adjutsed to match the criteria. I would at least like to see some consistency or is that too much to ask.

 

[POLZIN]

Did Anyone wait until it was legal to drink ! Probably not ! Do you know anyone who did ?probably not! So whats the point of a law that no one obeys? I think we should lower the law to 13 years old! Thats when I first started drinking And I am pretty sure so did most of you!