I'll try to post these pics of riding @ trestle today ran into 3 guys running the 2 moto (or otherwise) track system 1 KTM 530 1 YZF 450 1 Kawi 450. Let me just say that I would have been the first to say that these things prob wouldn't get out of their own way in the kind of snow we had up there, that being said eveyone in our group (about 10) were extremely impressed with how these things went. These things truly held their own today, maybe it was the riders I only knew 2 of them one was Derrik Mahony (sorry if I butcher the names ) and one of the other guys was someone named Mike Metzger . What a day fresh pow, sunshine,and gettin to ride with guys like that. Hope the pics come through.