Its Goerend not goering
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Its Goerend not goering
Wow, you have all given some good information. We have rebuilt the front end in our 2000 Dodge. Diesel engines are just so heavy, I think any one of the manufacturers would be suspect. The mpg reports have been interesting. We do want to buy something in case we go back to a 5th wheel again later, where we won't need to change the truck thing too. SO I do think we might need to go back and look at the newer Dodge's. We definitely want to move to an automatic tranny though.
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WIth the idea of towing a 5th wheel, don't get a GM. We had three seperate GM pickups (two duramax's and one gas engine) that we tried to tow 5th wheels with, always wound up going back to the 97 F350 Powerstroke to tow em. The GM's just feel... soft... with a load on em IMO.
BTW, we now tow with nothing but newer Dodges. One 5.9 and one 6.7. The Ford now just sits around not being used.
BTW, we now tow with nothing but newer Dodges. One 5.9 and one 6.7. The Ford now just sits around not being used.
Stick with the cummins engine, They're the most dependaple engine on the road, it would be crazy to downgrade to a durapuke
If you're going to get a used Duramax get an LBZ. They are IMO the best year of the Duramax and have the 6-speed auto also. I personally don't love the Chevy's as I like my ford when the snow gets deep and the trailer gets heavy...
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The new Dodge with the 6 speed is unbelieveable. A number of very cool changes and it seriously hauls butt.
My best friend has one with around 50,000 miles on it.
My son just bought a new one for $32000 long bed 2500 nicely loaded. He tows a 37' fifth wheel toyhauler and we just went camping this weekend. His truck rocks.
I have one of the last 07's with the 5.9 and 4 spd auto. 20,000 miles heavy towing it is doing great so far, but the new one is a powerhouse.
Good luck
for towing i wouldent trust the 68RFE as far as an excavator could chuck it
if your going to do any serirous hauling get a stick we put on 50k a year with our nv5700 6 speed.
if your only going to have the truck for 35k and trade it in, get an auto then your not having to put out any input into the trucks performance your just along for the ride.
and the 6.7 is one of the junkiest things ive ever seen cummins put in a vehicle. 5 out of 6 people have had the head warp and the torque converter discentegrate within 30k
You forgot turbos. Crazy how many are for sale on ebay.
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shortstop20
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I have an '04.5 LLY
I had to replace the instrument cluster($375, but it's free if it's newer than 7 years and less than 75K miles, if either of those are not true you will have to pay for it). Signs of trouble with the speedo are a "jittery" speedo needle, it will jump slightly up and down while accelerating smoothly. It's easy to notice, can't hardly miss it. Other gauges like the oil pressure gauge, fuel gauge, etc. may quit working too.
I had the transfer case go out on mine too and after reading on Diesel Place and talking to my local mechanic I'm definitely not alone. There is a bushing between the driveshaft(to the rear axle) and transfer case that can fall out after it gets some miles on it(say 75-100K, maybe less), at which point the driveshaft will wobble around, eating up the transfer case and ruining it. You may or may not get a bunch of error codes when the bushing falls out. You can't feel a vibration going down the road or anything. You have to get under the pickup, grab a hold of the driveshaft and make sure it's nice and tight going into the transfer case and that the bushing isn't just hanging there(or in the process of falling out). I was told by my mechanic that it should be checked every 20K miles.
I had to replace the instrument cluster($375, but it's free if it's newer than 7 years and less than 75K miles, if either of those are not true you will have to pay for it). Signs of trouble with the speedo are a "jittery" speedo needle, it will jump slightly up and down while accelerating smoothly. It's easy to notice, can't hardly miss it. Other gauges like the oil pressure gauge, fuel gauge, etc. may quit working too.
I had the transfer case go out on mine too and after reading on Diesel Place and talking to my local mechanic I'm definitely not alone. There is a bushing between the driveshaft(to the rear axle) and transfer case that can fall out after it gets some miles on it(say 75-100K, maybe less), at which point the driveshaft will wobble around, eating up the transfer case and ruining it. You may or may not get a bunch of error codes when the bushing falls out. You can't feel a vibration going down the road or anything. You have to get under the pickup, grab a hold of the driveshaft and make sure it's nice and tight going into the transfer case and that the bushing isn't just hanging there(or in the process of falling out). I was told by my mechanic that it should be checked every 20K miles.
Man, this gets more confusing by the day! Our demands for more power, more comfort, just keeps making these things harder to fix, and greater number of things that can go wrong! UGH!
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JSCC
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You must not pull all that heavy. My "stick" didnt make 50,000 miles before it went. Tell me in your honest opinion, what do you do next? The supposedly strongest manual put in pickups didnt make it, and they do not make any build up parts for it. Then on the other hand, that weak little 48RE with a built torque converter, valve body and some other things is still going strong after 100,000 miles.........so I ask you, what would YOU do next?
And by the way, Cummins dont put anything in a vehicle. The vehicle manufacturer does.
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RMK7SledHead
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man, would you PLEASE SHUT THE FU*K UP!!! You are an obnoxious troll and you know NOTHING about newer diesel pickups. Just cause Daddy drives a diesel doesn't mean you automatically get to comment on things remotely related to the subject.
I will repeat my earlier post: I know of not one single failure of the 68RFE. I'm sure they are out there, but they are few and far between. Not one has shown up on a internet message board that I have read...if you're going to hear about a failure, it's going to be on a message board.
the 6.7L engine is built to make power. It is seriously detuned in its stock form. There have been at least two already over 1000HP. 5/6 people haven't had the head warp or the t/c give up the ghost...86.72% of statistics are made up on the spot by idiots who don't know WTF they're talking about.
Again, I have put 22k on my 6.7/68RFE...it has been 100% bulletproof and reliable. It drives and rides like a Cadillac and will pull anything you hook to it.
oh, and TBW, just so you know, I'm the guy who wrote "stop posting about diesels...you don't know what you're talking about" in your rep.
it regularly tows 6 tons if not more
man, would you PLEASE SHUT THE FU*K UP!!! You are an obnoxious troll and you know NOTHING about
newer diesel pickups. Just cause Daddy drives a diesel doesn't mean you automatically get to comment on things remotely related to the subject.
I will repeat my earlier post: I know of not one single failure of the 68RFE. I'm sure they are out there, but they are few and far between. Not one has shown up on a internet message board that I have read...if you're going to hear about a failure, it's going to be on a message board.
the 6.7L engine is built to make power. It is seriously detuned in its stock form. There have been at least two already over 1000HP. 5/6 people haven't had the head warp or the t/c give up the ghost...86.72% of statistics are made up on the spot by idiots who don't know WTF they're talking about.
Again, I have put 22k on my 6.7/68RFE...it has been 100% bulletproof and reliable. It drives and rides like a Cadillac and will pull anything you hook to it.
oh, and TBW, just so you know, I'm the guy who wrote "stop posting about diesels...you don't know what you're talking about" in your rep.
i made a typeo it was suposed to be " 5 out of 6 people that i personally know and have been friends with have had that happen"
omg! atleast 2 that have made 1000 + hp?
and what tranny did they have.... hmmmm im going to guess an ats 22k thats barely 1.5 times broke in for that 6.7 get abuot 10 times that much on that tranny towing alot of stuff and report back to me.
ok ill put our D6 on a trailer and see if it will make it up 3 mile hill out of bonners ferry idaho.
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man, would you PLEASE SHUT THE FU*K UP!!! You are an obnoxious troll and you know NOTHING about newer diesel pickups. Just cause Daddy drives a diesel doesn't mean you automatically get to comment on things remotely related to the subject.
I will repeat my earlier post: I know of not one single failure of the 68RFE. I'm sure they are out there, but they are few and far between. Not one has shown up on a internet message board that I have read...if you're going to hear about a failure, it's going to be on a message board.
the 6.7L engine is built to make power. It is seriously detuned in its stock form. There have been at least two already over 1000HP. 5/6 people haven't had the head warp or the t/c give up the ghost...86.72% of statistics are made up on the spot by idiots who don't know WTF they're talking about.
Again, I have put 22k on my 6.7/68RFE...it has been 100% bulletproof and reliable. It drives and rides like a Cadillac and will pull anything you hook to it.
oh, and TBW, just so you know, I'm the guy who wrote "stop posting about diesels...you don't know what you're talking about" in your rep.
yippe, 22,000. get that focker to 220,000 and we will be impressed.lol
."rides like a Cadillac"
its a dodge 3/4 ton.......
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yippe, 22,000. get that focker to 220,000 and we will be impressed.lol
The interesting stuff starts happening to your trucks when they hit the 100,000 mile mark. And, IMO the real test starts once you roll past 100,001 and keep on a goin.
Maybe if its a Cadillac with the shocks welded fully extended...
yippe, 22,000. get that focker to 220,000 and we will be impressed.lol
"rides like a Cadillac"
its a dodge 3/4 ton.......
exactly, if i get a 3/4 ton and up im not buying for the ride quality. the automatic transmission is designed to fail. be it the TC going out or the fibers breaking down and just giving out.
so any one who regularly tows with an automatic and expects it to last longer than a stick is out of there mind
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The interesting stuff starts happening to your trucks when they hit the 100,000 mile mark. And, IMO the real test starts once you roll past 100,001 and keep on a goin.
in my book it starts at 200, if the truck has made it that far and still runs strong its earned my seal of approval.
our dodge has about 270k and in 15 below will still start up with just 2 glow plug cycles. it dont like to but when the wire got ran over by said dodge and snapped in 3 places w/out us realizing it. it had to be started so we could go sleddin.
Your dodge has no glow plugs.100,000 miles and dumb but mostly cheap stuff fails. 200k is no problem for a diesel...an american made 3/4 or 1 ton truck and drivetrain is another story.
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RMK7SledHead
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have you not figured out yet why I ask him to stfu? glow plugs in Cummins? The automatic is designed to fail? Fibers in the tranny? Is he serious, cause he sounds like he won the 100 meter dash at last summers special olympics in spectacular fashion. Please note the "our truck" reference...it ain't even his.
skidooer, I've got respect for you...you've got a bombed Cummins and a good idea about what it takes to keep one running at the middle of the aftermarket power level.
When comparing a 3rd-gen LWB to a 2nd Gen SWB or LWB, the 3rd gen rides like a caddy.
When you own one, you'll understand.
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Thats why 100,000 is choice on mileage. By that time your drivetrain and chassis will start falling apart (if its been driven like a truck should be driven) even though the engine is still going strong.
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