CPI turbo for XP

[deaner]

No, triple7 I do not have a problem with you personally. Nor did I mean to imply that you were going to use your mod status to delete competitors posts. I think the conflict is in that you are getting a tonne of free advertising on a public forum. If you werent a mod......perhaps the mod would step in and tell you to back off. I come on forums like this for 1. Entertainment, and 2. To gather objective first hand info from fellow sledders. Not to be fed a sales pitch by someone trying to grow their company.

My problem is I am getting sick of reading your sales pitch on EVERY single thread. And not just threads regarding turbos. I was checking out a guys gauge cluster delete (thread was title something about going topless). Really nice looking mod. And you come on there and try to hawk a turbo kit! Even when it has nothing to do with the thread at all.

Think Im an A hole all you want but I know there are others that feel the same way. Im just the one saying it.

Sorry for the highjack GC. Its a great topic. If I were putting a turbo kit on my XP I would definitely be looking at CPI. Best bang for the buck in my opinion for what you get in their kit. Plus theyve been building kits for alot of years now. Ive heard lots of good things.

 

[triple7]

Ok man. I was bs'n with the guy about his trick looking delete and was just chattin. It was late, nobody else was on.

But you have your points. I still recommend edit/ignore feature for you.

Im excited about these turbos. Im sorry for being into it.

Jake

 

[zrt1]

I picked up a used cpi kit this year and it seems to be pretty decent. Mike at cpi has been a ton of help and is a super nice guy. The good thing about the Mitsu. turbo is you can buy a brand new turbo for $600 Mike said.

 

[gus bohne]

2 cpi kits here, both on rev 800's both running drags on the flatlands.
1 in Michigan
1 in New Hampshire.
both have been great.

Mike is always good to deal with, built the airboxs for my 4 cylinder turbo project for John Renaud.

The cpi kit gets the job done .

Gus

 

[cb2honk]

Thanks to you guys that are actually sticking to the topic. I've been debating between going with the big bore option or turbo. But the price of some of these turbo kits is CRAZY! Thats why i was thinking about the CPI kit because their price is actually in my price range, but needed to hear some feedback from the guys that actually use their kit. The people on here that want to argue, START YOUR OWN THREAD WITH YOUR PROBLEM STATED! Stop ruining a good thread with good information.

Thanks

 

[craveboost]

i have been running the evo for the last five years with the cpi pipe. i am switching to the garrett turbo. the evo is a good turbo if you get the right oil pump, learned the hard way and a couple turbos later. cpi kit is a good kit, there is some things that imo could be done to make the kit cleaner. i have rode a rev cpi kit and it worked good, it was only on 6lbs of boost. imo its all in what you can afford and go from there! THANK YOU deaner for saying something, i feel the same way, if there kit is as good as they say, they don't need to get on EVERY post and say something!

 

[hatchers]

Well, Im on here quite a bit. I happen to see every single thread that is posted and I have an interest in turbo kits. So, I post. I supose that is a bad thing I am the mod on this particular forum...I believe that I have touched a grand total of 3 threads and that was to move them to the correct location. I will NEVER touch a thread or post posted by another manufacture of hotrod parts. Thats not my deal and its not cool. But, by the same token I dont feel like I should have to deal with a bunch of garbage being thrown all over us. I am here to make sure that all threads are in the correct place and deal with any TRUE issues found in the threads.

As far as debating whos kit is better, its all bench racing at this point. I know that our product is good. So what have I done that is so bad?? Believe me, Im all ears..

As far is reinventing turbo technology...interested as to where I stated that. I have only said that our kit is built to the highest quality and is correctly sized. It also deals with the inherent issues found on the xp application. What is the problem with that?? Last I heard, when people post looking for information on different turbo kits for their sled and we build one for them, I should post the information that I have. Is that wrong?? Is there a post limit on here?? I suggest adding me to your edit/ignore list if you dont like what I have to say.

Deaner, Im 20 years old. Ive run Silvernail Homes Dirt Work since I was 14. It remains very profitable and extremely busy in this economy. I own Barker Motorsports. It grew about 400 percent last year and grossed 234,000. Just a kid?? Come on man. If you have a problem with me, PM and lets deal with it. If you want me to bring a sled out so that you can see im not just some idiot, tell me you want a test ride. Its that simple.

Im done muddying this thread. If you want info about our turbo setup, PM me. If you have serious issue with me, again I recommend the edit/ignore feature.

I will see you all on the hill.

Over and Out!!

Jake

Dude, you are the definition of Passive Aggressive

I can’t remember you ever posting anything other then “buy my stuff, it’s the best”…offer the forum something else, or at best try a not to be such a prick about pimping your stuff?

 

[craveboost]

i guess thats how you have to act if the only video you put out of your kit and it don't run!

 

[BossRev]

Dude, you are the definition of Passive Aggressive

I can’t remember you ever posting anything other then “buy my stuff, it’s the best”…offer the forum something else, or at best try a not to be such a prick about pimping your stuff?

Seriously.

 

[Turbo Performance]

Boy's lets lay off a bit. There is not a kit out there that is bad or will screw your sled up. We all want to make money that is what we are in the business to do. Halverson make a great kit and so do we. Different opinions are not a crime. What floats my boat might not float your. so lets keep it clean and have some fun this year.


Skull, dang dude lay off a bit i know that you are one of our biggest promoters and you love our style. You have always had great luck with our stuff and i will keep you kick'n butt but don't get to crazy.

Go eat some more ding dongs and go lay down!!!

 

[smile]

I was hanging around a booth up at the boise show and this guy had puchased a low cost kit from another supplier and said that it was the stupidest thing he had every done.

the way i see it is a kit builder has to make some money to pay for his r&d and other stuff. he will not try to retire on one kit. You get what you pay for in my book. ask yourself. what has been cut to save money? What has been added to increase cost? can i sacrifice going with a lower priced item on my sled? Will that product hold up for my riding style or will i just need to spend more money in a month? Is every product in this kit designed for the sled? Is all these componets top of the line or do the skimp on some? these are all good questions. $3500 is cheap and there has to be some reason. Boondocker doesn't even sell them for that and they sell tons of volume.
I think i would check into them more.

crave boost why did you buy a cpi kit? and who is helping you now?

gus thanks for your info in al your posts.

Fack what are you saying about the carbs? It looks like everybody is doing them the same? Do you any experince in this topic or is all this just info you have gathered from the other turbo kit builder like turbo performance, d halverson, triple 7, brycter, gus, shane, brad, ovs?

I am getting real serious about these xp kits and need info. Help us all if you have some other tricks.

 

[hatchers]

I would love to see these doo turbo kits get to the status of M turbos.....its all a win win for us common folk who buy these kits

the forum problem is peolpe stuffing products down your throat.....let the snow fly and the product will speak for itself, one dude will tell another dude his kit works great, and so on and so on.....get the drift?

MCX and Impulse pimp nothing here, yet they are doing very well......as the kits speak for themselves and peolpe spread the word around

 

[Fack]

Everyone's kits are the same to a point. I will tell you that I have tried just about everything, or it least gave it some hard thought. I'm not going to tell you which ones are better because honestly I don't know. Without a doubt you really can't go wrong with whoever you go with. A carburetor is not universal to all applications. The concept is, but the specific carb is not. The ski doo carb was designed to work with the DPM on a stock ski doo motor. When you start to deviate from that by adding pressure you can't expect it to perform the same. You can make it work, but for me it required a little more thought. I did get a lot of help from a lot of people. Some of it was not applicable for my exact setup, and some of it wasn't helpful at all. Sure all the kits have power jets to supplement fuel but have you noticed that they all don't put them in the same place? For me it worked the very best to put them as close as I could to the slide. The closer I could get it to the slide, the more control I had over when that fuel circuit was on, and as always the more precisely you can control variables like fuel delivery the better off you are. On my ski doo I could get the carbs to work pretty good at lower elevations but as I went higher (9000+) My bottom end got boggy. Others have stated to me that they don't have this problem but I did. I didn't feel like I could go leaner on the pilot as it was already WAY small (can't remember what it was off the top of my head) so I took my slides and opened the cutout on the bottom an extra .5 mm. At that point I actually had to jet up a little in the pilot circuit, but it gave me more room to work with for higher elevation riding. The DPM needles are part of this problem and need to be changed as well. Also, I had a hard time with bumps and jumps and my sled wanting to flood in those situations. Others' have stated that they don't have this problem. I decided to take the signal for my fuel pressure regulator from the motor side of the carbs. That way I knew when my slide was closed my fuel pressure was lowered to prevent fuel from potentially coming out of the carb as the float was being bounced around. These carbs have a potential to flood in a really hard hit even without the added pressure. I think everyone has experienced that at least once. So to really say you can get it to go away under boost is not possible. Those are problems I had and up to this point I was unaware of too many people that were addressing those things on their ski doo turbos. I would not say that this is universal for all carbs and needs to be done to all carbed turbos but it is what helped me out. It's all a part of tuning you sled and these concepts can be applied to anyones kit. These aren't secret, but rather tuning tips. I will be trying some different carbs and following some very helpful advice from Gus this winter. My turbo is on a 2006 ski doo 800. I can say it has spent more time torn apart being reconfigured and changed than it has ever spent on the snow. I am always looking for better, and will never believe that there is a perfect setup. Seems like you hit that wall only to find that there is a better way. I will be posting some pictures before too long of my latest design. I'm pretty happy with what I came up with. It will look like just another turbo on a sled, but look hard and you will see it's not quite the same...

Fack

 

[triple7]

Ok boys, you've made your point. I have been excited about our poduct. I know its really really good so I have probably pushed it too hard. My fault on that one, and Im sorry if it has upset anyone.

I must have misread what the guy was looking for on the post. I thought he wanted info on different kits.

I look forward to seeing everyone at the Pump Gas shootout in Cooke City Montana. Lets get em out and compare notes!

Again, I didnt mean to ruffle everyones feathers and get their panties in a knot. My bad on that one.

As far as "pimping my product" on here, its a new company, new product and a new take on some old ideas. I felt that everyone looking to drop this much money into a sled mod had the right to know that there was another name in the circle.

See ya on the Mountain!

Jake

 

[snowmanx]

I have experience with a CPI and as stated, Mike is great. I have a mit evo 3 turbo on a carbed king cat, not an xp, but it has been very relieable. I bought the whole setup used, but have had to talk to ike on several occasions and he has ALWSYS been very informative and helpful, like I was no bother, even though I didn't buy anything from him.

The price is good, and like stated, $600 for a brand new turbo is you did need one.

Just my experience.

 

[ARMYSLEDER]

I have never bought anything from tripple7 but he has always been awsome to me when I PM him about help with my summit 1000 nitrous and with whats best to make my XP run good. How is awsome is that? A dude who sells performance helping me over messages to make my sleds run better stock. If I ever turbo my XP in the future Tripple7 Will have me calling him. You all need to lay off the dude. Atleast he is honest and helpfull. A heck lot better then some the companys in this sport. Tripple7 dont let anythis negative talk about turbos bring you down.

 

[DWHalverson]

Last I knew Mike was not running the Mitsubishi turbo on the XP and has changed over to the Garrett. Just some food for thought.

Dave

 

[devilrmk]

Jake has been very helpful to me fully knowing that I had no intentions of buying anything from him. I don't even ride a skidoo and he knows it, still been very helpful.

Regardless of whether he is pimping what he sells he is there to help. Ask him a question, he will answer regardless if there is anything in it for him.

My take on the kits is talk to the builders and talk to their customers. Who has the best support? Call them, do they answer the phone? Thats where my dollar would go.


Craveboost what did you find for an oil pump that would survive?

 

[craveboost]

the oil pump from twister is the one that i am running right know, have not had a problem.

 

[devilrmk]

Thanks, Still waiting for him to get some more.