CPI turbo for XP

[GC_doo]

Just wanted to see what the expert are saying about the CPI turbo setup? Anyone have one on their sled?

I am also considering the Turbo Boyz setup and the Absolute Power setups with the 53 turbo. Looking for something reliable that I can use in the future on a new sled when/if I upgrade next winter or the winter after.

CPI price is almost $2000 less so the price is hard to beat but just wondering what I am going to be missing. Absolute's setup sounds good with the intercooler but still wondering if I will need it.

I ride an XP at 8000-12000 feet usually. I don't mind tinkering with the turbo and clutch to some extent but want something I won't have to keep working on all season. Drop in and go with clutching and a few test rides would be ideal.

Thank you for all your time. Feel free to comment on your product Turbo Performance, Absolute Power and CPI since the best one will get my business in the next month or so.

 

[ReTodd]

I don't mind tinkering with the turbo and clutch to some extent but want something I won't have to keep working on all season. Drop in and go with clutching and a few test rides would be ideal.

No experience with CPI but I have had a turbo rx1 and I'm wondering if there really is a drop in and go setup. With turbos, it seems like there is always something to worry about or go wrong.

Rt

 

[triple7]

Have you ever considered an R&D Custom Turbo Werx setup??

It is a great kit that deals with the issues that need to be dealt with to make an XP rock hard consistently and limit the tuning. It is also the only kit on the market that is designed to go with you from sled to sled. We will update your kit to any new chassis that Doo comes out with by selling you only the pieces that you need.

Jake

 

[smile]

I Have been watching the turbo skidoo scene for about three years since turbo performance had the first tubo xp in the magazine.

My feelings are that everybody sells a good kit. They would have to or else they wouldn't be in buisness very long. But experince has to be a very big added value. Turbo performance has had to learn a few thing along the way of building kits for so long. Cpi has been building pipes for ever and everybody else is just new to the seen in the last 8-10 months. So choose wisely.I would choose who you think will help you out and fits your style.

 

[gus bohne]

You get what you pay for is the way to go into any mega performance investment.

If your not comfortable with tuning a little bit daily then stay at the lower , entry levels of add ons.

the aero's are unrelaible and overpriced for a very hot running old technology turbocharger..

think of it this way.
NO OEM in any market uses the variable vane with WICK lubrication as a factory installed turbo.

Why ?

Ask that question to me in a pm and I will give you all the info about the aero story as well as the legal end where those who were invlolved got sequestered to NOT say anything of the reliability issues with the design or manufacture of the aero.

it is a turbo, it does work most of the time, it is still as inconsistent as ever.
If you need tools to dissassemble or service one I will make them for you.

you still will be without parts as they won;t sell them to you..LOL

too bad, a hefty investment, some educated engineers to remodel the oiling system and it would HAVE BEEN a great turbo.
the end.

Gus

 

[madmax]

I have a lot of friends who started with aeros on thier turbo sleds. None ever made it through a season on normal riding without the turbo going down and at least a $1000 bill to get it fixed. All have changed over to auto turbos and went through all last year without a single failure. The areo is easier to instal, but not easy on the pocketbook.

 

[skull]

This post is not about aero vs automotive it is about information on where to get a great turbo kit.

I have 4 turbo performance kits right now and one has over 2000 miles on the motor, turbo. The only time that i have had a problem with the aero is when i was stupid and went over board on boost or had bad gas. Turbo performance has been great to work with, talk to, and they have always helped when i have or had a problem.

Turbo performance also has a auto kits ready. They just won't show it yet until it is proven so which ever turbo you like buy it from them. I would go with the aero any day!!! proably will again on a doo t1200.

They were the first skidoo guys and have done alot of r&d on these sleds.
give them a call.

Oh and by the way at least they support this site that we all love. By advertizing and giving back to the forum, shows, and mags. They are not a moderator or freebie seller.

TURBO PERFORMANCE ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[cb2honk]

Anyone have the CPI Kit installed? What turbo do they use on the xp turbo?

 

[skull]

evo3 turbo. I have heard they run good when they get dialed. Just not to much out there. they do make great pipes though.

 

[triple7]

This post is not about aero vs automotive it is about information on where to get a great turbo kit.

I have 4 turbo performance kits right now and one has over 2000 miles on the motor, turbo. The only time that i have had a problem with the aero is when i was stupid and went over board on boost or had bad gas. Turbo performance has been great to work with, talk to, and they have always helped when i have or had a problem.

Turbo performance also has a auto kits ready. They just won't show it yet until it is proven so which ever turbo you like buy it from them. I would go with the aero any day!!! proably will again on a doo t1200.

They were the first skidoo guys and have done alot of r&d on these sleds.
give them a call.

Oh and by the way at least they support this site that we all love. By advertizing and giving back to the forum, shows, and mags. They are not a moderator or freebie seller.

TURBO PERFORMANCE ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds like you have got those things dialed right in. Wana go for a ride this year?? Im always interested comparing to good running sleds..

BTW, I am waiting for my advertising packet to show up, so rest assured, im not just trying to profit from this place by being a "freebie seller".

Call Dave or myself if you are looking for the best quality, strongest running, and most consistent kit on the market for your Rotax powered hotrod!!

I look forward to going riding with all the other builders and guys running boosted DOO's this season. This is why the Cooke City shootout is going down. After January 9th and 10th, it will all be ironed out and the questions will be answered.

Gus, thank you for your insight. It is nice to have one of the very best two stroke turbo guys offer your knowledge and expirience to the rest of us. There is alot to be learned from you and you go a long way out of your way to help the rest of us out! to you!

Jake

 

[Summit Guy]

I have been running a CPI kit on a REV since 2006. It is a good kit but some things needed to redesigned (oil pump and oil line mainly) and maybe the new kits have been. Mitsu turbo has worked well.

 

[DWHalverson]

This post is not about aero vs automotive it is about information on where to get a great turbo kit.

Oh and by the way at least they support this site that we all love. By advertizing and giving back to the forum, shows, and mags. They are not a moderator or freebie seller.

I don't want to muddy this thread, but if you want to make personal attacks pick up the phone or start your own thread! I take the above statement personal and I don't like it! There are no rules about posting/advertising for free on the forums, so get over it. I'm glad you like the kit you have and that's good, but don't take it out on someone else just because your buddies feel threatened.

This is all I will say about your negative statement on this post. I'm turning onto the hi road now--LATER!!

Dave Halverson
R&D Custom Turbo Werx

 

[deaner]

I have to agree with Skull. I think its a conflict of interest to be a moderator, as well as a kid trying to hawk turbo kits. Im sick of you guys posting on EVERY single turbo thread acting like you are reinventing turbo technology. Maybe your kits are going to be great? Only time will tell. In the meantime could you lay off a bit??

 

[Turbo11T]

ha

I would say from what I have seen on here. Triple7 and DW halverson have been a great asset to this website. I doubt that triple7 is going to remove posts about the competitors kit. And not to mention, Christopher didn't have to allow him to be the moderator if he felt it was wrong, but obviously he stepped up and wanted the responsibilty and will do a good job, as it seems as though he has a passion for this sport. Also would like to say I don't think DWHalverson is any newbie. Pretty sure hes been in the snowmobiling game for quite some time, and it just trying to get a piece of the pie that everyone else is and also give ski doo guys a turbo option. I am personally out of the turbo 2 stroke club. But I have seen his sled in person and it looks very clean awesome setup. Also have to realize that other companies have been around for years. This is his first year in production. I am sure he will give back to snowest as well as all snowester's.

I think that is enough said. I hope that they don't have to delete this post because it has turned negative.

As far as the orginal question. I have watched the CPI turbos over the years. I think they have a solid product as well, another thing to remember is that no matter how "idoit proof" Any one kit is, It will still take the person riding it to know what is going on and keep the maintenance high.

 

[Chief]

About XP turbo kits

1) Does anyone have one that has noise suppression (read muffler) on the exhaust? Some pictures I've seen look like a straight pipe from the turbo. I don't care to listen to an open exhaust all day.

2) The XP runs on 91 octane without a turbo - what is the octane requirement with a turbo.

3) I've in the past had modified sleds but lost the "pull and go" reliability I want - Do any of the low to moderate boost kits have multiple season reliability?

 

[slednutz]

I really do not think pull and go should go in the same sentence.. whenever you add any kind of horsepower to an engine along should come the added attention and maintenance. Not saying you should have to tinker all the time but you need to check all of the preventative maintenance items on occasion.

 

[Ridin Ak]

I have to agree with Skull. I think its a conflict of interest to be a moderator, as well as a kid trying to hawk turbo kits. Im sick of you guys posting on EVERY single turbo thread acting like you are reinventing turbo technology. Maybe your kits are going to be great? Only time will tell. In the meantime could you lay off a bit??

x2 every post about a turbo we got both of them chimming in. let actions do the talking this season, not typing on every post to show how great your kit is. btw Dwhalverson you state that there are no rules on posting/adverstising, so whats the difference on what skull is doing and what your do on every turbo post?

 

[Fack]

I think we all just need snow. As far as the CPI kits go, on the XP they're running a garrett. I see on their website that they also sell a few different turbos so maybe that's an option from them. I was in their shop a while back when they were building the XP turbo and it looked really clean. I've heard that they run good, but I haven't seen it in person. Mike is a great guy and really does know his stuff. As far as comparing kits I would have to say that the little things really make the difference on the carbs. This year will be an interesting one for sure. I say bring on the competition. It's the need to compete that pushes quality and enginuity further and provides us with better products. Companies in competition help the prices from a consumer point as well. No matter what kit you choose I would definately give Mike a call and get one of his heavier gauge pipes. They seem to hold up well under boost.

-Fack

 

[DWHalverson]

If a post is started about who makes what then I will chime in, but I will not bash another persons product. That aint cool. If I remember correctly I got an email from GC_doo before he even posted this. I answered the questions he had and left it at that. I'm not going to step into a thread started by another builder and sling anything and now here I am in a CPI thread defending my product. I post and advertise, not bash on a thread that is started by another builder. We have been here building, promoting and selling kits due to the interest and keeping people who are interested in our kits informed all summer long while nobody else was around. Sorry for our exposure. It's called advertising. I don't run the Aeros and that's it. If someone else wants to, then good for them. I only have to worry about 1 business---that's mine. I'm not worried about any competition. It's good for everybody.

I will not respond anymore to this thread. I will continue to read it to be informed and educated, but no posting.

Have a good day.

Dave Halverson
R&D Custom Turbo Werx

x2 every post about a turbo we got both of them chimming in. let actions do the talking this season, not typing on every post to show how great your kit is. btw Dwhalverson you state that there are no rules on posting/adverstising, so whats the difference on what skull is doing and what your do on every turbo post?

 

[triple7]

I have to agree with Skull. I think its a conflict of interest to be a moderator, as well as a kid trying to hawk turbo kits. Im sick of you guys posting on EVERY single turbo thread acting like you are reinventing turbo technology. Maybe your kits are going to be great? Only time will tell. In the meantime could you lay off a bit??

Well, Im on here quite a bit. I happen to see every single thread that is posted and I have an interest in turbo kits. So, I post. I supose that is a bad thing I am the mod on this particular forum...I believe that I have touched a grand total of 3 threads and that was to move them to the correct location. I will NEVER touch a thread or post posted by another manufacture of hotrod parts. Thats not my deal and its not cool. But, by the same token I dont feel like I should have to deal with a bunch of garbage being thrown all over us. I am here to make sure that all threads are in the correct place and deal with any TRUE issues found in the threads.

As far as debating whos kit is better, its all bench racing at this point. I know that our product is good. So what have I done that is so bad?? Believe me, Im all ears..

As far is reinventing turbo technology...interested as to where I stated that. I have only said that our kit is built to the highest quality and is correctly sized. It also deals with the inherent issues found on the xp application. What is the problem with that?? Last I heard, when people post looking for information on different turbo kits for their sled and we build one for them, I should post the information that I have. Is that wrong?? Is there a post limit on here?? I suggest adding me to your edit/ignore list if you dont like what I have to say.

Deaner, Im 20 years old. Ive run Silvernail Homes Dirt Work since I was 14. It remains very profitable and extremely busy in this economy. I own Barker Motorsports. It grew about 400 percent last year and grossed 234,000. Just a kid?? Come on man. If you have a problem with me, PM and lets deal with it. If you want me to bring a sled out so that you can see im not just some idiot, tell me you want a test ride. Its that simple.

Im done muddying this thread. If you want info about our turbo setup, PM me. If you have serious issue with me, again I recommend the edit/ignore feature.

I will see you all on the hill.

Over and Out!!

Jake