Coil over effect on handling

[kidrman]

Coil over rear affect on laying sled over and sidehilling

I have an 04 800 and a couple of years ago I put an 156 x 16 CE and Cutler coil over on all at the same time. Since the change I have found the sled much more difficult to lay over in the trees and hold a side hill. I assumed it was the 16 wide track and have been considering changing back to a 15 wide but was wondering if the coil over would have any impact on being able to lay the sled over on its side.

I already have a two wheel kit and have owned this sled since new so I have a good comparison from before and after.

Thanks!

 

[Rixster]

These chassis are effected a ton by ski pressure. I would bet your new rear suspension has more ski pressure then your old rear suspension. So what exactly did you change? The whole skid or just the rear shock?

 

[kidrman]

I changed the whole skid using the Cutler arms and Works remote res rear shock. The front spring is stock with a Fox zero pro shock. I have messed around with preload to get a balanced amount of ski lift, 1 foot or so, and the skid is great in the bumps when climbing.

My buddy has a King with a Holz coilover and a 16 wide CE and has the same issue. He has changed settings numerous times with the same situation occuring.

 

[Rixster]

I was having the same problem with my sleds except that I don't have a aftermarket rear suspension.

here is what i found. I have a 04 king and a 04 mountain cat 900 efi. They are setup exactly the same. both have 159 rails and 162 powerclaw tracks. The king didn't handle worth a **** compared to the mountain cat. After 2 years of fighting it I finally found the difference. The lower scissor arm on the king was longer. So I started looking at parts lists. The 04 and 05 king and most of the m's used a different lower arm then the 04 mountain cat and 06 king cat. The 08 HCR m8 also uses this shorter arm. 1704-001 is the part number to the shorter arm. 1704-058 is the number of the longer arm.
So anyway, after changing out this arm the king now handles like a dream !!

Basically It is in the weight transfer of the sled that makes it easy to tip from side to side in the deep. More ski pressure = harder to tip over.

 

[kidrman]

So you think the shorter allowed more transfer and thus easier to layover? Makes sense as it would lighten up the whole sled. I will decrease my preload and see if it helps, when it finally snows

one other question if anyone else is reading. I haven't done much with the fron skid shock, it is almost all the way loose. I wonder if a couple turns on that would lighten the feel up without causing it to trench badly?

 

[Rixster]

Tighten your front shock alot !! it will help with transfer. If you get it setup for deep snow boondocking the trail handling will suffer but who cares? trails suck anyway!

 

[kidrman]

Tighten your front shock alot !! it will help with transfer. If you get it setup for deep snow boondocking the trail handling will suffer but who cares? trails suck anyway!

I will tighten up the front shock then. I could care less how it goes down the trail!