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CO_MapMaker
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I wish my garage floor was cat green!
CO sled skiers?
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ohh i just noticed how the skis hang outside the running board. That will NOT work! If your running boards are too skinny than mount one ski on each side. Have the skis follow the angle of the tunnel as much as possible. Keep the skis as tight to the sled
try puttin gthe gun rack on the bumper and strapping there. For the front it looks like you can strap directly to the side of your rack.
try puttin gthe gun rack on the bumper and strapping there. For the front it looks like you can strap directly to the side of your rack.
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What's going to get torn up? The rack/aluminum bar on the tunnel?
I just went out and looked again - the tails of the skis are only 4'ish off the ground, about the same height as my head, not 6' as I posted earlier.
I might be able to move the forward gun rack down to the running board and get more distance between the two racks - that's the problem, they're not really far enough apart, and the rearward one is doing ALL the work.
Hmmmm. I wonder if I can make something to bolt onto the bumper, letting me mount the rear-rack out farther. That might be the ticket, and I might have enough random junk lying around to do it.
Iain
I just went out and looked again - the tails of the skis are only 4'ish off the ground, about the same height as my head, not 6' as I posted earlier.
I might be able to move the forward gun rack down to the running board and get more distance between the two racks - that's the problem, they're not really far enough apart, and the rearward one is doing ALL the work.
Hmmmm. I wonder if I can make something to bolt onto the bumper, letting me mount the rear-rack out farther. That might be the ticket, and I might have enough random junk lying around to do it.
Iain
I'd say try to mount one of those on the outside leg of the bumper and mount the other one a few feet up on the side of the tunnel. Your skis will then be in line with the sled. You'll want your binding between the two brackets, or at least in the bracket to take the weight. Or, probably the most durable and boondockable is to mount a bracket on either side of the bumper and run one ski on either side and figure out a way to secure the tails in the footwell or along the tunnel. If stuff won't clear you might get a piece of 3/4" conduit or alum tube and run it perpendicular over the rack or bumper and bolt it in. Not very elegant but will give you more room to adjust. And when you find out you like boondocking the sled more than skiing take all that junk off so it doesn't rip your guts out when you bail off the back 
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Thanks for all the suggestions - greatly appreciated. Will get to work on V2.
The floor is 1970 Dodge Charger green - Grabber Green, I think? I painted my racecar this summer, did not tarp the floor, thought that keeping it wet would keep the paint from sticking.
It did not.
Thankfully, brake cleaner and a stiff broom makes it come up, so when it comes time to sell, I can get rid of the green spot.
Iain
The floor is 1970 Dodge Charger green - Grabber Green, I think? I painted my racecar this summer, did not tarp the floor, thought that keeping it wet would keep the paint from sticking.
It did not.
Thankfully, brake cleaner and a stiff broom makes it come up, so when it comes time to sell, I can get rid of the green spot
. Iain
I just know when you get on that sled your not gonna granny along, and to get to the good stuff your going to have to get on it. if you don't want to stuff the tails in the wells you might try attatching some eye hooks in the floor board, or drill a few holes you can run a strap through and up and over the seat to the other side. maybe just loop the strap around the tails and have a quick release buckle to fasten and adjust tension. Better yet, get some of that plastic strap plummers use to hang pipe on joists. It's a substitute for the metal strap they use (home depot has it). That plastic strap is tough and won't mar your skis. Just take a 6 inch length or so and rivet it in with a backer washer to spread the load and wedge the tails in. Good luck with it
we sled & we ski
Yo!
I have skied 100+ days for about a decade mostly in the backcountry. Now me and my buds split time sled skiing, sleddin and fightin tourists at the resorts. We have all the equip needed for a good safe time. Write back and we can do this. Also, I still ski more than I sled but with my new supercharged apex that might change. Powder turns with some power under you is a great feeling!!
Yo!
I have skied 100+ days for about a decade mostly in the backcountry. Now me and my buds split time sled skiing, sleddin and fightin tourists at the resorts. We have all the equip needed for a good safe time. Write back and we can do this. Also, I still ski more than I sled but with my new supercharged apex that might change. Powder turns with some power under you is a great feeling!!
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What if my primary ski partner is female?
What if two gay guys are in fact skiing with a sled for access?
Bicycling?
Iain (now we're getting to the important stuff, and dntgtstk, yup, we should hook up {not like that, Butta!} this winter - I have a fair bit of backcountry experience, beacons, shovels, etc)
What if two gay guys are in fact skiing with a sled for access?
Bicycling?
Iain (now we're getting to the important stuff, and dntgtstk, yup, we should hook up {not like that, Butta!} this winter - I have a fair bit of backcountry experience, beacons, shovels, etc)
Here is my set-up. I have refined it over the last 3 years. It is a simple design, but I need it to be strong and secure. I did a post on my site back in Dec. 2007 that explained how I set it up. www.mhallmtbsnow.blogspot.com
The key is to drill a hole in the bumper through the gun rack to screw in a set screw to keep the gun rack from spinning on the bumper or bar. Mine is mounted on an 08 700 RMK and an 05 800 RMK (after this week the 800 is gone, replaced by an 08 700 RMK Dragon). You have to set the board or skis in the rack to position the angles. The board has to be back far enough so you don't hit your leg on it. I use 2 or 3 short bungees to hold the board. I also use a water ski rope to tow.
The key is to drill a hole in the bumper through the gun rack to screw in a set screw to keep the gun rack from spinning on the bumper or bar. Mine is mounted on an 08 700 RMK and an 05 800 RMK (after this week the 800 is gone, replaced by an 08 700 RMK Dragon). You have to set the board or skis in the rack to position the angles. The board has to be back far enough so you don't hit your leg on it. I use 2 or 3 short bungees to hold the board. I also use a water ski rope to tow.
I have been at the sled-skiing gig for 4 years now.
I must say lots has changed for me since I started sledding. First, I tried for a whole season to sled ski but got nothing but a taste because of my below average sledding skills (i.e really bad).
Then I spent most of the next season just sledding and got much much better at it (i.e couldn't hang with slednecks but go most places and follow better sledders almost all places). Did some more sledskiing that year and started to see the potential.
Last year, got into some 'real' sledneckin'. (Not crazy climbing, but downhilling tree runs, TRY and go anywhere boondocking, big (for me) highmarks, etc.) It was then that I really realized the limitations of ski boots. At this point I bought snowboard boots and quickly realized how awesome they are. So I set up a snowboard and have been snowmo-boarding now.
Snowboarding and snowmobiling go hand in hand. The boots, holding equipment while canucking...etc. Only thing that puts me in a bind there is that I ski...
To put this story into context, I have skied over 600 days in the last 4 years and have been more passionate about skiing than anything before in my life. This year, I have not even begun to get excited about skiing or winter...that is until I bought my new XP and began to set it up.
I will continue to ski alot this year as I do love it and have sponsor obligations, I will snowboard ALOT more, and I'm guessing Snowmobile a WHOLE lot.
For no reason I thought I'd share my story.
Anyhow now I'll try and be of some help. As far as ski racks are concerned I love the Cheetah Factory Racing Racks. I have been using them for 3 years now. They are so good, I can go out and sledneck all day and have my skis with me and not think twice.
ON THAT NOTE, I can appreciate wanting to try and make something cheap that works. On one of my sleds, which happens to be a zx style summit (same chassis your using) I did this and I haven't found anything but the cheetah rack that works better.
I stretched a bungie cord over the seat from floor board to floor board right behind the gas tank. Hook the bunjie as close to the tunnel as possible on each side. This creates your tip stays. On the Rear of the sled, where you have mounted your gun racks (the furthest rear one) I attached a snowboard binding strap. So you slide the tip of the ski in between the tunnel and the bungie and stuff it into the foot well. And then ratchet the tail and your poles into the back.
I got the idea from a Helly Hansen ad in a ski magazine featuring Mark Abma. This is what he does on his sleds.
Good luck! Keep us posted. I would be into taking some runs with you if I'm in Colorado this year!
I must say lots has changed for me since I started sledding. First, I tried for a whole season to sled ski but got nothing but a taste because of my below average sledding skills (i.e really bad).
Then I spent most of the next season just sledding and got much much better at it (i.e couldn't hang with slednecks but go most places and follow better sledders almost all places). Did some more sledskiing that year and started to see the potential.
Last year, got into some 'real' sledneckin'. (Not crazy climbing, but downhilling tree runs, TRY and go anywhere boondocking, big (for me) highmarks, etc.) It was then that I really realized the limitations of ski boots. At this point I bought snowboard boots and quickly realized how awesome they are. So I set up a snowboard and have been snowmo-boarding now.
Snowboarding and snowmobiling go hand in hand. The boots, holding equipment while canucking...etc. Only thing that puts me in a bind there is that I ski...
To put this story into context, I have skied over 600 days in the last 4 years and have been more passionate about skiing than anything before in my life. This year, I have not even begun to get excited about skiing or winter...that is until I bought my new XP and began to set it up.
I will continue to ski alot this year as I do love it and have sponsor obligations, I will snowboard ALOT more, and I'm guessing Snowmobile a WHOLE lot.
For no reason I thought I'd share my story.
Anyhow now I'll try and be of some help. As far as ski racks are concerned I love the Cheetah Factory Racing Racks. I have been using them for 3 years now. They are so good, I can go out and sledneck all day and have my skis with me and not think twice.
ON THAT NOTE, I can appreciate wanting to try and make something cheap that works. On one of my sleds, which happens to be a zx style summit (same chassis your using) I did this and I haven't found anything but the cheetah rack that works better.
I stretched a bungie cord over the seat from floor board to floor board right behind the gas tank. Hook the bunjie as close to the tunnel as possible on each side. This creates your tip stays. On the Rear of the sled, where you have mounted your gun racks (the furthest rear one) I attached a snowboard binding strap. So you slide the tip of the ski in between the tunnel and the bungie and stuff it into the foot well. And then ratchet the tail and your poles into the back.
I got the idea from a Helly Hansen ad in a ski magazine featuring Mark Abma. This is what he does on his sleds.
Good luck! Keep us posted. I would be into taking some runs with you if I'm in Colorado this year!
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mannix
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Interesting story, thanks! Will try the suggested method - that sounds like it'll work well.
This is going to be more challenging than I think, I believe, and in some ways, I get huffy when people say "you're going to like it more than skiing."
Like it more than SKIING?!!? Cracksmoking hillbilly, knockitoff! Skiing is my life!
Umm, wait - I really, really like skiing. When I was in 7th or 8th grade, my father (a nonskier, really, my parents just figured skiing would be a good diversion in the winter) brought home a magazine simply called "Powder."
In that magazine was a picture. Mostly white, with a hand and part of a pole sticking out. The caption was simple - "Snowbird, UT."
It was on. From that point forward (82 or so), I was simply focused on going to this place called Snowbird. I did; I cut a TON of grass, saved money, flew to SLC in August of 88, sauntered into the shop at the base of Snowbird and informed them I'd be working there.
Ten years of shops, waiting tables, driving big vans, shoveling snow, you name it, if the compensation included "season pass," I was in.
At a certain point, I decided to get a job that allowed me to _afford_ skiing, not be afforded it. 10 years have passed, and oddly enough, I start a new job this coming week for the very same company that I did 20 years ago. (amazingly enough, the people in question remembered me, but only remembered the good - whew! I was a punk back then
Funny how things work out. I've gotten smart enough to realize that I can have a job in the ski industry that affords me life - including skiing. Thank goodness. The bottom line is simple - I like skiers. They're a goofy bunch, and there's a thin but important thread that makes skiers see things in a similar light.
Anyway - let's say I _do_ find something I like better than skiing - would that be BAD?
The more I think about it, the more I don't think it'd be bad.
At all.
So, this winter will be an adventure. Looks like snow next week - should be fun!
Iain
This is going to be more challenging than I think, I believe, and in some ways, I get huffy when people say "you're going to like it more than skiing."
Like it more than SKIING?!!? Cracksmoking hillbilly, knockitoff! Skiing is my life!
Umm, wait - I really, really like skiing. When I was in 7th or 8th grade, my father (a nonskier, really, my parents just figured skiing would be a good diversion in the winter) brought home a magazine simply called "Powder."
In that magazine was a picture. Mostly white, with a hand and part of a pole sticking out. The caption was simple - "Snowbird, UT."
It was on. From that point forward (82 or so), I was simply focused on going to this place called Snowbird. I did; I cut a TON of grass, saved money, flew to SLC in August of 88, sauntered into the shop at the base of Snowbird and informed them I'd be working there.
Ten years of shops, waiting tables, driving big vans, shoveling snow, you name it, if the compensation included "season pass," I was in.
At a certain point, I decided to get a job that allowed me to _afford_ skiing, not be afforded it. 10 years have passed, and oddly enough, I start a new job this coming week for the very same company that I did 20 years ago. (amazingly enough, the people in question remembered me, but only remembered the good - whew! I was a punk back then
Funny how things work out. I've gotten smart enough to realize that I can have a job in the ski industry that affords me life - including skiing. Thank goodness. The bottom line is simple - I like skiers. They're a goofy bunch, and there's a thin but important thread that makes skiers see things in a similar light.
Anyway - let's say I _do_ find something I like better than skiing - would that be BAD?
The more I think about it, the more I don't think it'd be bad.
At all.
So, this winter will be an adventure. Looks like snow next week - should be fun!
Iain
Had some of my best powder days @ Snowbird. 
I also live near C470/285, I basically live a few blocks from the MEGA Liquor Store Tipsy's
We should meet up in Morrison for a beer sometime.
I've spent the last 2 year riding out the 285 corridor....no F'n SKI TRAFFIC
I've done quite a bit of (single day)sledding just west of Jefferson (Georgia Pass) it's nice because you have access to the entire Tiger Run system (montezuma/breck/keystone) without touching I70, and it really only takes about an hr to get there....285 can be a real bear in the winter tho..
This year we're going to try Guanella Pass (Grant side) and out as far as Como and see how the sledding is.
We have access to a condo and cabin in Grand Lake that we try to hit up every year a few times as well....
I also live near C470/285, I basically live a few blocks from the MEGA Liquor Store Tipsy's We should meet up in Morrison for a beer sometime.
I've spent the last 2 year riding out the 285 corridor....no F'n SKI TRAFFIC
I've done quite a bit of (single day)sledding just west of Jefferson (Georgia Pass) it's nice because you have access to the entire Tiger Run system (montezuma/breck/keystone) without touching I70, and it really only takes about an hr to get there....285 can be a real bear in the winter tho..
This year we're going to try Guanella Pass (Grant side) and out as far as Como and see how the sledding is.
We have access to a condo and cabin in Grand Lake that we try to hit up every year a few times as well....
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We're basically neighbors! Beer is good. I've been wondering about 285 - seems like one could get to some good stuff without I70, but someone here said that South Park sucks for snowmobiling - ??? Dunno, but it seemed to me like there _has_ to be some good stuff out that way. I've ridden my motorcycle at Redcone/in that area, and I'd THINK there would be good skiing out there - the up-high stuff would certainly be wind-affected, but I'm OK with trees.
Snowbird is a delightful place. They're claiming 46" from the last storm. Grrrr.
Iain
Snowbird is a delightful place. They're claiming 46" from the last storm. Grrrr.
Iain
NICE 46"...I swear it only snows about 10 times in Utah, it just snows about 5 feet every time...
South Park itself isn't good for sledding but there's some decent sled access from southpark. The Redcone/Handcart valleys have a little sledding in them but become major Avy hazards real quick...I snowshoe up there and up to Gibson Lake every year...
South Park itself isn't good for sledding but there's some decent sled access from southpark. The Redcone/Handcart valleys have a little sledding in them but become major Avy hazards real quick...I snowshoe up there and up to Gibson Lake every year...
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Guenella pass at Genevia Basin would be an area to consider or Jones Pass. Genenvia Basis is a little trick for parking. I would recommend taking your skis first to check it out. Go in from the Grant side off 285.
Guenella pass at Genevia Basin would be an area to consider or Jones Pass. Genenvia Basis is a little trick for parking. I would recommend taking your skis first to check it out. Go in from the Grant side off 285.
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Another two areas to consider, which I have not been, but only heard about is the leadville area, behind Ski Cooper. I believe that is where the 10th mt division used to train. Another area is north of Taylor Resv. which is on the Aspen side. Access via Cottonwood.
Another two areas to consider, which I have not been, but only heard about is the leadville area, behind Ski Cooper. I believe that is where the 10th mt division used to train. Another area is north of Taylor Resv. which is on the Aspen side. Access via Cottonwood.
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Guanella Pass was plowed from Georgetown to the Xcell station--no further last year--not sure about the Grant side--better check with the county. Guys were parking on the road and riding over the top. Everything east of the road is wilderness.
I have been skiing since 1962, Ski Patroller at Keystone, got my first sled in 1981 and only go skiing a few times a year. Trust me, when you throw your leg over that XP you will throw your skis away
The sledboarders at Togwotee (steep stuff) ride 2 up, first guy sitting and holding the stem of the handle bars, the second standing and driving the sled with his board strapped to his backpack. To do this on steep terraine you need to have foot rests riveted to the back of the running board and tunnel.
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I have been skiing since 1962, Ski Patroller at Keystone, got my first sled in 1981 and only go skiing a few times a year. Trust me, when you throw your leg over that XP you will throw your skis away
The sledboarders at Togwotee (steep stuff) ride 2 up, first guy sitting and holding the stem of the handle bars, the second standing and driving the sled with his board strapped to his backpack. To do this on steep terraine you need to have foot rests riveted to the back of the running board and tunnel.
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