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Anybody know how many this makes it?
www.foxla.com
LIVE: Auto Fire breaks out in Ventura County as Santa Ana winds move into Southern California
The “Auto Fire" was reported near the Santa Clara River.
Newsom had a dam removed
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2020
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Four hydro electric dams ripped out, let that sink in.
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2020
Historic deal reached to remove 4 massive dams on lower Klamath River
An agreement announced Tuesday paves the way for the largest dam demolition in U.S. history. Warren Buffett said the reworked deal solved a “very complex challenge.”
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Four hydro electric dams ripped out, let that sink in.
OK then, how did they stop the trees from burning?
Not a lab coat but if I were to guess the heat was so intense that it incinerated those houses. Makes sense to me but I could see the argument.
Maybe it's like grounding out, good ground no problem, bad ground big problems.
Flat top electric stove, you'd never know it's hot if you weren't paying attention till you touched it and had your finger prints peeled off
There's just to much technology to deny it, I think.
We had a bonfire of several years of cutting over growth, it created it's own canopy. We lit it for New Years, quite a few years ago.
It burned so hot it attracted other cabin owners because they could see the glow. I took pictures on the phone but this was before the cloud thing.
It was the colors of the the fire that was crazy, it got so hot that there was no orange or red, the inside was a white ball with purple flames.
I've never seen a fire before or since that hot.
Cleaning up beetle kill in this pic below.
That's one tree caused by beetle kill with a few scraps, the stump is right in front of it.
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Or it’s complete bullshit.
Wind, moisture, oxygen, and elevation changes all drive fire. Metal concentrates heat differently than wood, in a flash fire it can reach hotter temps. Has less moisture than green growth or even a fence post after a rain.
The pic of the clean burned hill is a slope.
Slopes burn clean if started at the bottom and dry everything above them as they rise cuz heat rises. Start it at the top and you’re getting a different result.
I’ve personally seen glass and windshields melt, so the expert statement is bullshit,
Fun Fact.
I spent two weeks ago in Maui, in Lahaina and drove through the burn area multiple times.
The slopes and dry areas are nothing. The flats and irrigated green areas are still there.
They are not rapidly building a new smart community.
I talked extensively to the locals with tarps on half of the roof of their houses. They are scratching to rebuild their lives on their own. No rich people coming in to offer to buy them out,
Fire is insanely destructive and unpredictable. It has rules and characteristics, yes, but given the right conditions it is truly wild.
Wind, moisture, oxygen, and elevation changes all drive fire. Metal concentrates heat differently than wood, in a flash fire it can reach hotter temps. Has less moisture than green growth or even a fence post after a rain.
The pic of the clean burned hill is a slope.
Slopes burn clean if started at the bottom and dry everything above them as they rise cuz heat rises. Start it at the top and you’re getting a different result.
I’ve personally seen glass and windshields melt, so the expert statement is bullshit,
Fun Fact.
I spent two weeks ago in Maui, in Lahaina and drove through the burn area multiple times.
The slopes and dry areas are nothing. The flats and irrigated green areas are still there.
They are not rapidly building a new smart community.
I talked extensively to the locals with tarps on half of the roof of their houses. They are scratching to rebuild their lives on their own. No rich people coming in to offer to buy them out,
Fire is insanely destructive and unpredictable. It has rules and characteristics, yes, but given the right conditions it is truly wild.
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Heat concentration……
I remove steel rivets from rubber harvester belting with a torch.
The heat concentrates into the steel, it melts out before the rubber ignites. It stinks, warms, and softens, but does not ignite, exactly like the nails in the posts.
I remove steel rivets from rubber harvester belting with a torch.
The heat concentrates into the steel, it melts out before the rubber ignites. It stinks, warms, and softens, but does not ignite, exactly like the nails in the posts.
Tried finding pics I have of a PSI sled that burned on us years ago. The aluminum block melted and ran out on the ground. It melted through some of the still existing belly pan plastics that weren’t flammable enough or close enough to the concentration from the gas in the block to burn away.
It is quite amazing that trees are still standing though, you have to admit.
I know a log takes a lot longer to start burning hard compared to kiln dried lumber even if the logs were kiln dried. Almost lost a cabin from that F.U.
I would think there's no way that foliage could survive the heat from those buildings.
There's a lot of different things there.
Got a sled pic for you that did that, block was gone.
I know a log takes a lot longer to start burning hard compared to kiln dried lumber even if the logs were kiln dried. Almost lost a cabin from that F.U.
I would think there's no way that foliage could survive the heat from those buildings.
There's a lot of different things there.
Got a sled pic for you that did that, block was gone.
