Beacon Law

[Carter]

The real answer...

This is getting Good.
But no one has answered the Question...IS IT A NEW LAW NOW IN WYOMING to wear one like the Togwotee guy told me...
He did say last year if you rented a sled you were required to rent or have one..................But he said this year its the LAW.......

I think he is blowing smoke up my Well you know.

There is NO NEW Wy. law that requires manadatory beacons. This started 3 years ago with the forest service requiring people who ride with professional guides in back country settings to have beacons. On a personal note, you don't want to wear one, don't come. Just that simple...

 

[deepsnow8]

There is NO NEW Wy. law that requires manadatory beacons. This started 3 years ago with the forest service requiring people who ride with professional guides in back country settings to have beacons. On a personal note, you don't want to wear one, don't come. Just that simple...

Oh no Iam not staying behind I have one and I am firm believer in them.
....................And on a Personal NOTE:
If somone wants to ride with me or our group and does not have one is not welcome until he gets one...

 

[KFD070]

Never heard of it but what a great idea. Maybe that will help stop the idiots that don't have one when they go into the hills. Or maybe they need to have a no beacon day and all those people can go ride together and I can stay at home and watch the destruction.

Maybe the "Idiots" are the ones who repeatedly put themselves in these precarious situations in the first place. I agree the beacons are a great to have when they're needed but why do guys continually put themselves in harm's way even when avalanche conditions are at their peak? I personally try to avoid spots where I know I'm at risk at certain times of the year. I have however considered carrying one to assist in a rescue should the need arise. Stupid or not, no one deserves to die doing something they love to do.

 

[Adrenaline Revolution]

Maybe the "Idiots" are the ones who repeatedly put themselves in these precarious situations in the first place.

"why do guys continually put themselves in harm's way even when avalanche conditions are at their peak?"

"I personally try to avoid spots where I know I'm at risk at certain times of the year."

Very well put and my point exactly.

I will ride with one as everybody should, but thinking these will keep you safe from an Avy is like thinking carrying a gun through a war zone will keep you from getting killed....

Stay the H3LL out of the war zone to begin with. use your brain.

A group leader that says to a new rider that they cannot ride with that group unless they carry a tranceiver would make me question their ability to keep that group OUT of the dangerous areas in the first place.
They might as well tell the new guy that they intend to put the group at risk of being buried under an Avy.
Doesn't sound like a fun time to me.

Maybe I'm way off on this but I'll carry a beacon to help find the folks who made the poor descision and rode in an unsafe place to start with.

I've been riding for @ 18 years now and have only once been anywhere close to an Avy and I learned from that incident.
I never choose to ride in an area that might slide therefore I have never been close to being buried.
But before I get flamed by someone I'll repeat...I do suggest we all use them and learn how to use them properly to save someone's life.
I just don't want to be told I have to wear one.

It's MY choice to wear one and I have made that choice.

 

[Mn Mtn Man]

Togw and beacon rental, training

Some in our group had no beacons so rented at Togwotee.
Yes, our guide gave beacon training to group before we left the parking lot. And no extra charge, right Ben

To Adren Revol who carefully avoided potential avalanches: the only way to do that is stay in the parking lot. Sledders have been killed in avys on trails, parked next to frozen lake where avy came all the way across the lake, etc. I realize you do wear a beacon but one ot count on avoiding an avy. You can stay away from the seriously bad avy areas but sometimes it's the innocent looking slopes that slide, seen it happen.

 

[Adrenaline Revolution]

Some in our group had no beacons so rented at Togwotee.
Yes, our guide gave beacon training to group before we left the parking lot. And no extra charge, right Ben

To Adren Revol who carefully avoided potential avalanches: the only way to do that is stay in the parking lot. Sledders have been killed in avys on trails, parked next to frozen lake where avy came all the way across the lake, etc. I realize you do wear a beacon but one ot count on avoiding an avy. You can stay away from the seriously bad avy areas but sometimes it's the innocent looking slopes that slide, seen it happen.

Your statement that I marked in bold is not true at all and I'm sure you made it trying to prove some point or at the very least, trying to be funny.

There are trails that will slide...I know that.
When we come to them in avy conditions we turn around and play somewhere else. HAVE OPTIONS. Use your head.
Having that beacon on will NOT protect you from that, or any slide and I think you know that too.

Very true (No, I don't stay in the parking lot!) I mean true, that an avy can happen in an otherwise innocent looking area and that is one reason to wear the beacon, for the place you would never imagine would slide.

The ONE time I was close to an avy WAS on a trail and continuing on that trail was scary as h3ll but nescessary to return to the rigs about a mile away.
No choice other than set up camp for the night and hope the conditions got passable the next day or so. It was about 300 yards of shear panic from the group but we crossed one at a time and we all watched each other all the way accross.
I don't believe beacons had been invented yet.

I also play on the larger slopes, like everybody else, that would/could slide in the right conditions.
I just stay off those places when the conditions are bad.
Something has to be said for 18 years of doing it right!
It's brains, not luck that contributes to the safety record.

 

[Mikboo]

OK OK I get it.. we all should have & use a beacon. I ride Tog all the time without one, but you all have convinced me to buy one.

Now the real question:
What one do I buy?

and.. When are we all meeting at Tog so you can teach my group how to use them?

oh yeah... and ...WHERE IS THE SNOW?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

 

[Dartos]

http://www.bentgate.com/avsagepa.html

This is where I bought my package. But any decent snowmobile dealer should have the same stuff at comparable prices.

 

[Zachcreek]

If a guy doesn't want to wear a beacon to be rescued, that should be his privilage. But at least wear one for recovery. Your family might want the body back.

Gives the rescue dogs practice...

 

[Clarke673]

Yea, that's how I feel... if someone doesn't want to wear one, and doesn't mind becoming a statistic... more power to them I suppose. I won't be riding with them.

That too. Who's paying for enforcement?

The only problem with that logic is that what if you ar the one buried. You have your beacon but no body else around does. That’s what i always worry about!

 

[Zachcreek]

The only problem with that logic is that what if you ar the one buried. You have your beacon but no body else around does. That’s what i always worry about!

You forgot about the rescue groups out there. Not having to put themselves in a life threatening position. Unless they let you stay there until spring thaw. Not wearing a becon, just wash your mouth out with a .45. Save everybody alot of trouble.

 

[coopchute]

thats fine with me, i refuse to ride with people who dont have one anyway. Its not just their life they put in danger without one, its mine too.

 

[GYP M-80]

The only problem with that logic is that what if you ar the one buried. You have your beacon but no body else around does. That’s what i always worry about!

thats why i carry a beacon in my backpack!! incase someone forgets theirs or doesnt have one... not for them but for ME! it is rare to lend it out with the people i ride with but i figure it is cheap insurance!!

 

[blurredelevens]

thats retarted. I agree everyone should were one, But a law requiring it. Stupid. Next we will all be required to wear ABS, TekVest, Where would it stop

I completely agree.

That's why I'm against seatbelt laws, helmet laws, etc.

I hate having the government thinking for me or anyone else.

Let survival of the fittest and natural selection run it's course.

 

[togwotee9]

There is NO NEW Wy. law that requires manadatory beacons. This started 3 years ago with the forest service requiring people who ride with professional guides in back country settings to have beacons. On a personal note, you don't want to wear one, don't come. Just that simple...

I assume this is Carter the Guide from Togwotee Lodge, so I will take his word for it. Spend the 200-300 buck get one, learn how to use it and ride.
If not for you then for the unluck sap under the snow.

BTW Carter hows the don't know trail?