Ban Public Protest

[allied1]

First off, I'm sorry for calling you a dumb sh!t. No real reason for name calling! I apologize for that. But, in the bigger picture, I do strongly feel that this whole racial tension/PC issue in our country is going to bring us to our knees and I, for one, do not like it one bit! There is a HUGE problem ongoing in our once great country that is dividing us(as in my former post calling you a derogatory name) because we have a different view point. I'm guilty of the very same reason that I'm opposed to. Our government WANTS us to divide! So let's not!!!!!

 

[smokindave]

First off, I'm sorry for calling you a dumb sh!t. No real reason for name calling! I apologize for that. But, in the bigger picture, I do strongly feel that this whole racial tension/PC issue in our country is going to bring us to our knees and I, for one, do not like it one bit! There is a HUGE problem ongoing in our once great country that is dividing us(as in my former post calling you a derogatory name) because we have a different view point. I'm guilty of the very same reason that I'm opposed to. Our government WANTS us to divide! So let's not!!!!!

It takes a big man to apologize!
Now that's a great post!
Cheers


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[inspector01]

That's my point, the government (police included) aren't responsible or accountable for anything they do, but we regular citizens are. Which is why cops (and politicians and their supporters) are allowed to do whatever they want, we can't defend ourselves, and they won't get punished. It's not a race issue to me, it's a government/society issue, but blacks do generally get treated worse, so I understand their frustration.

Freddy greys arrest was for NO REASON, he shouldn't have even been in custody for this to happen. But people like you decide that because he's commited crimes in the past(who hasn't, I know I have), whatever happens to him is fine. Not to mention, who knows how many of those arrests were legitimate in the first place, clearly not all of them are, like the one that cost him his life for no reason at all besides cops wanted to harass him.

I have had cops blatantly lie multiple times (and a couple threats, and an illegal search) to get me for traffic/minor offenses, and I'm middle class white with no record from a small town, so I can imagine how a black kid in the ghetto gets treated.

Just consider that other people's lives and experiences may be different from yours, judge a little less, empathize a little more.

 

[Mafesto]

judge a little less, empathize a little more.

That's all fine & good, but once those animals start rioting, looting, burning etc.....at that point I say take 'em out.

 

[Mafesto]

There are good & bad & in between in all races , creeds, colors & orientations.
The REAL VICTIMS here are the many, many GOOD black people who are trying to raise their children right & instill the values that helped build our great nation. These children have these great role models of parents on one hand, and then on the other they have the Al Sharptons of the world who are referred to as leaders of the black community.

I remember being a teen and at that point, following the lead of your parents is not an easy or natural path. So the path of least resistance is the path being laid by the Al Sharpton 5hitheads of the world.

A life is a terrible thing to waste, and that is what too many people are doing. (all colors)

 

[ridehard1029]

I for one am excatic that the 6 officers are being charged with murder. Brings me back to my earlier posts a few months back about police brutality. Yes cops have one of the toughest jobs ( simple traffic stops could get them shot just from walking up to the vehicle ), but that's all in the line of work. But so many people shot in the back BY COPS from running away, so many homeless men beaten to death, so much wrong done by certain police forces for nothing to be done. This IS a step in the right direction ( but 3 steps back will be taken somewhere ). I say they go back to the past to all the obvious wrong doings in recent years. One I'd like to see handled is a short time ago in Washington state , a mentally ill man crying for someone to call the cops for help, ended up getting jumped and beat to death by the cops. It only hit local news, but no officers were charged. But he must have done something wrong to deserve it right? Maybe he spat on them. Yeah that'll do it!

 

[ridehard1029]

That being said every one of these rioters destroying property that had nothing to do with the murder would be shot to the ground if it was up to me. I don't play.

 

[Scott]

So now there is word that ole Freddy was arrested during a drug deal.
He had heroin and marijuana in his system.

 

[ridehard1029]

So now there is word that ole Freddy was arrested during a drug deal.
He had heroin and marijuana in his system.

Okay then arrest him. Don't beat him to death in the back of a van. Oohh marijuana ! I'd like to see the actual toxicology report.

Even then, heroin, yes personally I feel to be the lowest of all drugs, if he had heroin in his system, he's weak. Not as much of a threat, again, in the back of a police vehicle.

 

[Mafesto]

But so many people shot in the back BY COPS from running away

This is where I disagree with you.
If a cop says stop, you should stop.
If a cop supposed to say "STOP!.....oh I see you are still running. Well maybe next time"?

Same with resisting arrest.

I know there are bad cops & they should be dealt with, but we expect these officers to do their jobs, well let's allow them to do their job.

When night falls, if there is one less criminal turning good air into bad, the world truly is a better place.

 

[ridehard1029]

This is where I disagree with you.
If a cop says stop, you should stop.
If a cop supposed to say "STOP!.....oh I see you are still running. Well maybe next time"?

Same with resisting arrest.

I know there are bad cops & they should be dealt with, but we expect these officers to do their jobs, well let's allow them to do their job.

When night falls, if there is one less criminal turning good air into bad, the world truly is a better place.

So a guys running away from a cop. Take his life?

 

[ridehard1029]

https://youtu.be/fg3GrfR2wiQ

 

[Mafesto]

So a guys running away from a cop. Take his life?

It's his choice. After all, he could stop.

This is the problem, there are no consequences any more.
If a cop is chasing you, just out run him.
Sell some dope, you won't get caught. If you do it's just a slap on the wrist.
Traffic violators are treated more harshly than druggies.

Maybe, just maybe, if people knew there we consequences for their actions, we wouldn't be watching riots on tv on a weekly basis.

We need to take our country back...........by whatever means necessary.

 

[Mafesto]

https://youtu.be/fg3GrfR2wiQ

Not enjoyable to watch.
But again, is it the cops fault that the guy would not stop?
Will not comment further w/o knowing full story.

 

[Devilmanak]

Whatever happened happened, but how people are acting after is silly. I personally think that racism is alive and thriving in this nation, as bad as it has been in going on 200 years.
There are a huge number of "black only" organizations, clubs, schools, etc in the US.
Black History month.
United Negro College Fund
BlackPeopleMeet.com
There are probably hundreds. Replace "black" with "white" in any one of them, what do you think would happen?
How many white guys are killed by black cops? We probably don't know, or care, because society doesn't look at I that way. When a black dude is killed by white cops, it is reported as such, and opportunists use it to their advantage. That is only proven by what is happening in Baltimore, people are using it as an excuse to act like morons.
It should have read "A man was killed today by police officers", not "A black man was killed by white officers."
Anyone who looks at it and spreads the hate that way is the true racist.

 

[mountainhorse]

"Black Power", however, does not have a long history like "White Power" with this kind of incident.

What would happen today, if there were white people hanging from the ropes or wires like the black people in these photos... every "patriot" organization in the country would flock to the cause ... like some did in the case of Cliven Bundy, who's band of followers pointed automatic weapons at law enforcement and walked away.

This one in front of an Omaha courthouse.

IMO, Anyone who says that historic context does not matter... does not appreciate the breadth and depth of the situation.


I remember Michael Donald... in 1981 when travelling through Alabama with family when I was in high school.... Lynched by the Alabama Klan to make a "White Power Statement"... That image has stuck with me to this day.

Michael Donald was born in Mobile, Alabama, in 1962. He attending a local trade school and worked part-time at the Mobile Press Register.

In 1981 the trial of Josephus Andersonan, an African American charged with the murder of a white policeman, took place in Mobile. At the end of the case the jury was unable to reach a verdict. This upset members of the Ku Klux Klan who believed that the reason for this was that some members of the jury were African Americans. At a meeting held after the trial, Bennie Hays, the second-highest ranking official in the Klan in Alabama said: "If a black man can get away with killing a white man, we ought to be able to get away with killing a black man."

On Saturday 21st March, 1981, Bennie Hays's son, Henry Hays, and James Knowles, decided they would get revenge for the failure of the courts to convict the man for killing a policeman. They travelled around Mobile in their car until they found nineteen year old Donald walking home. After forcing him into the car Donald was taken into the next county where he was lynched.

To this day... it still permeates our society... and is still infecting our children...
The parents of these girls should be publicly shamed by their OWN community.

Do I justify rioting or looting... heck NO....that is criminal action that should be punished to the extent of the law...

But this situation has not happened in a vacuum... I grew up in the Detroit suburbs... and I've personally witnessed unwarranted, systematic, white police aggression against black people... and the abject racism prominent in the area... Even against my own friends.

"Black Power" is a statement of Black Pride... and not a statement of the history of violent Racism that "White Power" represents in our country for centuries.

If you have never been to the inner city Baltimore...or Detroit or other impoverished, desperate, and utterly sad places in our country... then you really don't know the depth of despair that people in these areas have. I have and it makes me sad about the state of our country.

As far as the drug addiction of Gray... I see it the same way as I do about Rush Limbaugh's criminal drug addiction.

IMO...Say a prayer for us all... and for our nation!!

 

[Devilmanak]

That was inappropriate as hell for a public forum. Someone want to post some Auschwitz pics next?
See you guys next year, I am out.

 

[Mafesto]

That was inappropriate as hell for a public forum. Someone want to post some Auschwitz pics next?
See you guys next year, I am out.

Actually I think that seeing those pictures is very important.
It is important for whites to see how horrible our ancestors treated fellow human beings. (fact that most in the picture were smiling sickens me)
It is also important for negros to see those pictures so they also realize how bad their ancestors were treated. This realization should re-assure them that the progress made has been immeasurable, and inspire them to do whatever possible so their children can see similar race relations improvements in their lifetime.

 

[FatDogX]

https://youtu.be/fg3GrfR2wiQ

Now I'm not justifying the actions in the video but......

One thing WE ALL need to remember is that a video shows a very small snapshot of what happended and never tells the entire story.

As far as an officer shooting a fleeing subject, there are instances where it would be completly justified, even if the subject is unarmed. Is this one of the cases, I don't know, but thats just it, we usually don't know all the facts. There for, one should be careful and not so quick to judge.......

As far as these demonstations or protests, call them what they are, a riot !! It seems to me that lately, some people are just looking for an excuse to go out and break the law and call it protesting......

It sickens me, to see where this country is heading.

 

[skibreeze]

Not enjoyable to watch.
But again, is it the cops fault that the guy would not stop?
Will not comment further w/o knowing full story.

That cop murdered that man and should go to prison. He shot him in the back when the victim was not a threat to the officer. He then tampered with evidence when he moved the tazer near the body. He then filed a false police report. I hope he rots in prison.