They say you need balance in life. That is what sets the Axys apart from my former Pro Ride sleds. This thing just balances on edge better. Sitting on the shop floor, hanging corners on the road, or holding edge on a steep slope, it has a really big sweet spot and it loves to stay there. It almost makes it too easy. Yes, the motor has a little more grunt and it rolls up 25 percent easier but where it really shines is on edge and it is extremely stable when it gets there.....that's what sets it apart from the Doo.
Balance in life....
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Amen.
There is a difference between tipping over easy and keeping an edge through changing conditions.
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I love hearing how awesome the Axys is. keep the good news coming.
A Fellar I ride with fairly regularly picked up an axys this year. I've only rode with him once this year but he didn't seem so pleased. Granted its a new sled to him so will take some getting used to, his previous sled was an '07 700 dragon, but he was getting stuck left and right and was complaining about not being able to lay it over. I didn't get a chance to ride it so not sure if its just set up poorly or if that's just how they are.
I'm thinking he's putting too much effort into trying to get it to lay over.Demoed a 16 Axys 2 weeks ago and was impressed as to how easy it was to lay over.Got bucked off once or twice before I figured out the balance point.
I've got an 11 and 13 Pro RMK, had an 08 700 Dragon before that.Rode my friends 08 Dragon 800 last week and it felt like a dinosaur compared to the newer sleds.
Time in the saddle and he'll like it,if not sell it to me at a discount
I've got an 11 and 13 Pro RMK, had an 08 700 Dragon before that.Rode my friends 08 Dragon 800 last week and it felt like a dinosaur compared to the newer sleds.
Time in the saddle and he'll like it,if not sell it to me at a discount
Ya, he's an older guy and not a real aggressive rider so it may not be the right choice for him. watching him ride it it looked like he was trying to ride it old school style, ya know, knee on the seat and all. I'm sure seat time will help, but if not him and his boy are diehard brand loyal polaris guys so he'd probably just continue struggling before he'd ever consider trying somethin else.
I'm an older guy (56) with an Axys and I can confirm that the Axys rewards me when I ride agressively and use proper technique and don't over ride it, but it will punish you if you are passive and try to ride it like grandma would. It pulls over so easy I typically tip over on it (in slow motion) about once a ride when I pull over to stop on uneven ground.
. That being said, this is the most fun sled I have ever ridden. Climbs like a mountain goat, floats like nothing I've ever been on in the deep powder, and balances on its edge with little or no effort. Not to mention the "zippy" motor.
I just got back from Colorado on mine a couple of days ago. All I can say is wow. I felt really comfortable on it right from the get go. A lot of people complained about how bad it is on the trail vs the old pro. Not in my opinion. I didn't notice it to be any worse than the Pro on the trail. However, where it really shines is off trail in the deep and steep. The 1st day on it I never got stuck. Believe people with us were getting stuck. This sled is so either to throw around it makes me a much better rider than I am. The engine is so so much better than the one in my Pro. The entire Axys experience has been a very positive one for me. I am not looking forward to ever getting back on my pro. I do still have my pro but not sure how much riding on it I will do. The reason I kept it is because of its low value and the fact I want to leave my SKS up at camp and ride my pro closer to home. We will see how that pans out.
I'm an older guy (56) with an Axys and I can confirm that the Axys rewards me when I ride agressively and use proper technique and don't over ride it, but it will punish you if you are passive and try to ride it like grandma would. It pulls over so easy I typically tip over on it (in slow motion) about once a ride when I pull over to stop on uneven ground.
that's what I've been reading is the axys likes aggressive riders, we tried telling him to forget about that knee on the seat business and try staying centered but he wasn't up for friendly pointers, plus he said the bars were to low for him if he stayed centered. Oh well, hopefully he'll get the hang of it and we get some more snow so I get a chance to try her out in some good snow.
Coming off an 08 ski doo renegade, the first thing I noticed is the amazing balance point of this thing. I've still fallen off a few times due to putting too much effort on getting it on its side like I was used to with the old sled. Plus there's only just over a foot of snow here
I do have my AXYS close now but it has taken a lot of work to get it to handle as confidentially as my 15 Pro. It is true the 16 feels lighter and pulls up easier, it is the holding the edge that I like the older chassis for. Mine is a 163 x 2.6 and buddy has a 155 and thinks your way. Not sure if length has anything to do with it?
The shorter offset spindles now have made it balance like my 15. Tincuprider will your's balance on 1 ski on your shop floor like you mention?
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I didn't find it to be easier to pull over than a Doo, or hold an edge better, or worse. I think both are very capable sleds, and it comes down to rider preference...
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They don't pull over as easy as the skidoos but they are better on edge than the skidoos. They stick to their line when it gets rough. You can get thrown around with the doo. A good rider will overcome this so it is rider preference. The problem doo can't overcome is their fat body and boards.
I'm purplexed by this "FAT BODY" talk. Can someone explain this to me? Yet to have this happen to me.
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So when you put a 36 inch front end on an Axys, what does it look like?
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Teth-Air, to answer your question, I was referring to sitting on the sled not having it balance on its own, which I will have to try when I get it back in the shop. My brother has always had the cats and he likes to flip it up on one ski and ride down the road like that. My Pros fought this somewhat, and I felt they were awesome in soft snow but liked to lay flat in lower snow conditions. The Axys has a different weight distribution and for me just rolls up and balances better. When I'm on edge and I cut through tracks or rough stuff I feel like it's much steadier.
As far as the Doo goes, I confess I didn't ride it much. My brother had the 13 XM and it was easy to roll up but it was not good in rough or uneven snow. We hit a day when there was a wind blown layer and it was barely ridable. It wanted to climb on edge all the time. I just prefer the Polaris and the Cat.
My brother is riding the 15 Pro climb, he put the 16 front end on it and it really works, extremely responsive and predictable. I prefer both to the Doo, but each to his own.
For really deep soft conditions I doubt anything will high mark a 174 T3.
As far as the Doo goes, I confess I didn't ride it much. My brother had the 13 XM and it was easy to roll up but it was not good in rough or uneven snow. We hit a day when there was a wind blown layer and it was barely ridable. It wanted to climb on edge all the time. I just prefer the Polaris and the Cat.
My brother is riding the 15 Pro climb, he put the 16 front end on it and it really works, extremely responsive and predictable. I prefer both to the Doo, but each to his own.
For really deep soft conditions I doubt anything will high mark a 174 T3.
Ace, it is a combination of wide boards and body that drag in the snow and slow you down. Add in flex edge and that is why they wash out on steep hillsides. Add the rider forward and that is why they do the skidoo stuff when snow is soft. I was out with 3 T3's. One 154 and 2 163's. Seen the doo stuff a couple times. Stuck on flat or slightly downhill. One buddy couldn't believe how my axys 155 would just keep going. It is the raised body and narrowness that keep it going. Especially in the trees where you can't just go straight up. I consider myself fairly unbiased and like both sleds.
It's only a hindrance on steep terrain, and then it pushes you away from the hill.
Turns into a wrestling match with the rider losing.
If you don't notice it, try riding steeper terrain.
