Hi im looking to get an avalanche back pack this year.Im just wondering how confotable the snow pulse bag is compare to the abs. Whats your opinions on which bag is the best?
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avalanche back pack
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IMO, the SnowPulse fits better than the ABS Escape line, but the ABS Vario line fits about the same (maybe a little better) than the SnowPulse. SnowPulse comes in 2 sizes, regular and long. Long is for anyone over 5'8" tall. It has a longer torso length, like the ABS Vario, and feels a lot more comfortable than the ABS Escape line. Call or PM and I can discuss each of the packs in more detail if you'd like.
Brian
Brian
just some food for thought!
I don't think that comfort sould be the most important reason for picking an avy pack. You want to know how the pack is going to perform when you pull the trigger. ABS is the only pack that has any stats behind it ( close to 300 people have survived in an avalanche wearing ABS bag ).
ABS - 26 years, 300+ saves, 98% survival rate
Snowpulse - 2nd year, ? saves, ? survival rate
BCA - 0 years, 0 saves, no stats, not even to the dealers yet!!!!!!!!
Do you choose a pack on what someone says it will do or do you make your chose on the stats that are put in front of you? IT'S YOUR LIFE!!!!!
I don't think that comfort sould be the most important reason for picking an avy pack. You want to know how the pack is going to perform when you pull the trigger. ABS is the only pack that has any stats behind it ( close to 300 people have survived in an avalanche wearing ABS bag ).
ABS - 26 years, 300+ saves, 98% survival rate
Snowpulse - 2nd year, ? saves, ? survival rate
BCA - 0 years, 0 saves, no stats, not even to the dealers yet!!!!!!!!
Do you choose a pack on what someone says it will do or do you make your chose on the stats that are put in front of you? IT'S YOUR LIFE!!!!!
Mule, I'll call you on that.
I was under the impression snowpulse was only on the market as of last year. If they had any good stats wouldn't they use them in North America.
I was under the impression snowpulse was only on the market as of last year. If they had any good stats wouldn't they use them in North America.
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flyboy103
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I had the same question. I'm looking at getting a pack but can't decide what to go with. I like the looks of the snowpulse 30L pack but am worried it would be to big and clumsy. I would go with the abs 15L but not sure i would be able to get everything into it that i usually take with me. What do you guys with the 30L snowpulse think of them, and what are the guys with 15L abs packs getting into them? I'm 6ft, 185 lbs. Any input is appreciated. Thanks.
The stats for snowpulse aren't looking to good up here.
I'm 5'7" 155 and I ride with a 30L ABS and can still sit down with the pack on. I'd have a hard time packing enough supplies for an overnight stay in 15L.
can we get pictures of them all here, nice to find one that is small in sise, but does work
Anything smaller than a 30L is a waste IMO.
Your chances of spending the night, or performing first aid is much much greater than being involved in a fatal avy. If you are not totally prepared for anything that nature throws at ya, then you shouldn't be in an area that has that possibility.
Your chances of spending the night, or performing first aid is much much greater than being involved in a fatal avy. If you are not totally prepared for anything that nature throws at ya, then you shouldn't be in an area that has that possibility.
30l abs
To restate your post as I understand it, a 150L air bag is only good for a 170lbs rider w/gear.
How did you determine this? Do you have data to back up this statement?
pack size
i was in the same boat as you. i bought the escape 30lt. im 5'8. its a great pack but i could carry to much which made it heavy. i now have a vario 15lt its good but just a bit small. if you talk to keith at rockymountian. he has posted on here, he can set you up with a vario pack in the right size harrness and they have a 22lt bag for it, works great, just the right amount of storage. dont find im carring the kitchen sink anymore. and freinds arent asking me to carry the extra water and stuff. the harness fits great, talk to keith and he can answer all your questions. Pm me if you want me to take some pic's of my pack. right now i have the 15lt the 22lt and the guy is picking up my old 30 escape this weekend
good luck.
giddyup
i was in the same boat as you. i bought the escape 30lt. im 5'8. its a great pack but i could carry to much which made it heavy. i now have a vario 15lt its good but just a bit small. if you talk to keith at rockymountian. he has posted on here, he can set you up with a vario pack in the right size harrness and they have a 22lt bag for it, works great, just the right amount of storage. dont find im carring the kitchen sink anymore. and freinds arent asking me to carry the extra water and stuff. the harness fits great, talk to keith and he can answer all your questions. Pm me if you want me to take some pic's of my pack. right now i have the 15lt the 22lt and the guy is picking up my old 30 escape this weekend
good luck.
giddyup
I run a 15L ABS escape. I'm a jumper, so I try to keep things as light as possible, on the other hand, I carry all the 1st aid I need, survival gear, bivy sack and a few other things in the pack, then put the rest of the stuff I need in the seat (NOT the shovel)
If you have a 010 cat, the monster container in that seat would hold 2 packs worth from what I can tell.
I prefer more in the seat, less in the pack.
btw, the 15 is pretty comfy for me (5'8", 180)with or without my roost guard.
Have a BCA ordered for my wife, hope it's comfortable for her.
If you have a 010 cat, the monster container in that seat would hold 2 packs worth from what I can tell.
I prefer more in the seat, less in the pack.
btw, the 15 is pretty comfy for me (5'8", 180)with or without my roost guard.
Have a BCA ordered for my wife, hope it's comfortable for her.
I am 5'9, 160, and use an ABS 30. I also ride with some guys who have the 15. The 30 can fit a lot of stuff, so don't over think your supplies (like said above) and it doesn't get too bad. It takes a few days of getting used to the extra weight, as with any pack 15 or 30. The biggest thing with the 15 vs 30, you can't get your shovel handle in the 15, as most are too long. We all riveted a strap to our shovel handles (and some of us the blade as well) and clipped it on the outside of the pack. Works great, easy access. The 15 with the shovel blade gets pretty small for anything else. The 30 can fit it all inside and then some. Not a huge weight difference, empty, between either, and the price is relatively close. I went with the 30 for the "just in case I need it" attitude. I don't care to be stranded without enough stuff!
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flyboy103
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Thanks for the info guys. I think a 30L pack is gonna be the way to go. I usually end up shedding layers as the day goes, along with first aid and overnight stuff so i'm sure a 15 would end up a little short of room. Think i'm gonna pick up another shovel to keep on the sled so i don't have to keep digging the other out of the pack.
