Auto dealers please..How to-on buying...

[snowrdr]

Jetta.

So my time is worth nothing and being lied to is an ethical car salesman daily activity? BORN AT NIGHT, BUT NO LASTNIGHT!

Oh, an ethical car salesman???? Have not met one yet. Here do yourself a favor and go to www.kbb.com and book out you new car and check the invoice versus MSRP

 

[snopropanther]

Oh, an ethical car salesman???? Have not met one yet. Here do yourself a favor and go to www.kbb.com and book out you new car and check the invoice versus MSRP

i found one. i walked into the ford dealer and said i want that truck for this price. walked out with the keys. saved 4000 bucks. not that the truck was expensive to start with but i got a deal.

 

[snowrdr]

This is a funny subject.

2 weeks ago I bought a 2008 Ford F-250 Super Duty Diesel 4x4 FX4 with Leather for $12,000 less then sticker. Of course there was $5000 in rebates.

 

[Transporter]

If anyone thinks a car is worth over 30 000 or a truck over 60 000 you are crazy.Give me a break vehicles are so over priced everybody should boycott for a year or two.

 

[M5-]

Transporter PM'ed you

M5

 

[Rubberdown!]

Did the KBB thing, and considering where the dollar is, and location, all options we wanted...I feel pretty good with what we paid.....What for all the Nissan calls to start this morning....Cheers to All the inputed!

 

[phatty]

This is a funny subject.

2 weeks ago I bought a 2008 Ford F-250 Super Duty Diesel 4x4 FX4 with Leather for $12,000 less then sticker. Of course there was $5000 in rebates.

I just got a quote on that truck. Sticker was 54000 out the door would be 42500. Thats still way too much money for those trucks...

 

[Jaynelson]

Ok so here is the auto buyers information.

Invoice price is 11% behind the MSRP

Each dealer pays the invoice price for a car but then receives a variable 2 to 4% dealer holdback for each vehicle sale. So how much do you have to play with, well quick math is about 13-15%. Now the import companies have a little different volume programs as well as higher shipping costs.

That is the domestic structure for sure.....I know Toyota and Honda (in Canada) have no holdback and more like 9% markup....but they also hold much firmer on price, particularily Toyota.

 

[Jaynelson]

If anyone thinks a car is worth over 30 000 or a truck over 60 000 you are crazy.Give me a break vehicles are so over priced everybody should boycott for a year or two.

What else has that much technology and R&D in it that sells for 10% profit margin (at best)?

If anything, prices should be higher.....you think the Big 3 are in their tight spot because of OVER pricing?? Uh no, it's called overspending combined with 0% financing, 10K discounts and "we will finance your black lab if he has a social insurance number."

Let's face it, things need to go back to how they were in the car world....financing harder to get, and higher prices. It keeps the sub-prime credit urchins in the $5K vehicles they SHOULD be driving, and keeps the guys who make $50K a year out of $60K F350's that they really can't afford even if there is 15K in rebates. I know that's a hard concept for many, but those basic principles are why the economy is in the state it's in; just extrapolate it through a few more major industries.

 

[Rubberdown!]

What else has that much technology and R&D in it that sells for 10% profit margin (at best)?

If anything, prices should be higher.....you think the Big 3 are in their tight spot because of OVER pricing?? Uh no, it's called overspending combined with 0% financing, 10K discounts and "we will finance your black lab if he has a social insurance number."

Let's face it, things need to go back to how they were in the car world....financing harder to get, and higher prices. It keeps the sub-prime credit urchins in the $5K vehicles they SHOULD be driving, and keeps the guys who make $50K a year out of $60K F350's that they really can't afford even if there is 15K in rebates. I know that's a hard concept for many, but those basic principles are why the economy is in the state it's in; just extrapolate it through a few more major industries.

"A" fricken "MEN"

 

[Rubberdown!]

Ok for those of you keeping track on this saga......When I first contacted the Medicine Hat dealer I asked about trading in my 350Z which I purchased from them on this exact Rogue retailing for 33 and change......They said $8900 diff plus taxes and fees which works out to about 10 g diff...Got an email today saying they will come and get the Z and drop off the Rogue for 6g diff + taxes and fees......Aren't these games? And do they not realize that people don't like having their time wasted?

 

[Blu Du]

i hate buying cars. if i see some thing i want. i go sit down get there bogus price. i say fu call me when you get a better price. this process may take 2 weeks. they allways call back and say we were able to put more money in your trade.

 

[coyoteman]

just buy one from himark.