im not trying to be a a$$ hole but at the 2006 bis there was way to many fancy turboed sleds sitting at the bottom imo why even buy it if your going to park it and watch others..... and thats not the only occasion i have seen this a guy talking bout his 40 000 sled thats the best thing going then when they get to the hills they just watch.... i honestly think to many people have to much money and have to have the fastest sled for a conversation piece but it aint actually getting ridden.... grant you that there is some amazing turbo guys out there that can handle the power...
Apex- cheaper to buy or build?
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im not trying to be a a$$ hole but at the 2006 bis there was way to many fancy turboed sleds sitting at the bottom imo why even buy it if your going to park it and watch others..... and thats not the only occasion i have seen this a guy talking bout his 40 000 sled thats the best thing going then when they get to the hills they just watch.... i honestly think to many people have to much money and have to have the fastest sled for a conversation piece but it aint actually getting ridden.... grant you that there is some amazing turbo guys out there that can handle the power...
There's a few nice Tapex's for sale right now on SW. I bought mine, put 750 miles to break everything in right, than slapped the turbo on last summer. That's a tough question. dollar for dollar, I believe it would be cheaper to buy used. BUT, knowing the sleds history would make me wonder. Dustin with Outlaw Motorsports makes awesome setups. I believe they still have a couple nice used setups. If you do build your own, be ready to watch 'the green' go quick! Once you're all done, it's definately worth it. Finding new challenges is the hard part now. It will get to the point that once you turbo your sled, you will watch from the bottom because the hills just aren't as challenging anymore
Weight is not an issue once the turbo spools. You'll smile every time
Weight is not an issue once the turbo spools. You'll smile every timeThat's actually untrue. If you look at used modified sleds (four stroke or not) you can buy the sled for much less than what the sled and parts are worth, nevermind the labour. It's a better deal to buy a sled that has been done, but like was mentioned before not knowing the history of a turboed sled might be a bad thing. At the same time though you can't get a good deal if you don't take a risk.
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Ak nitro
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If they were running 18 to 24 lbs of boost, with a headshim, good fuel and did not have a built engine, they were playing with fire anyway, any turbo manufacture will tell you over 18 pounds you need a built engine. This was stated right from the beggining of last year.
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Reminds me of when I bought the new Dodge Viper a few years ago, every light there was a guy in a piece of chiiit car telling me to do a burnout, I guess I should of done it every time to please guys like you, especially since it was a 100,000 dollar car huh! How many sets of tires did I go through in the year that I owned the car, 3... and for my own enjoyement not to show off everytime someone looked at me
As far as people having expensive toys for conversation pieces, I tell you theirs nothing more annoying than every gas station you go to people asking the same questions over and over again.... how fast does it go?? How much power??? How much did it cost??? Must be bad on gas??? So PUD why dont you worry about your money, your sled, your balls, and rethink the thought that every turbo rider you see sitting for any period of time is waiting for you to come over and talk about his sled or that he doesnt know how to rideReminds me of when I bought the new Dodge Viper a few years ago, every light there was a guy in a piece of chiiit car telling me to do a burnout, I guess I should of done it every time to please guys like you, especially since it was a 100,000 dollar car huh! How many sets of tires did I go through in the year that I owned the car, 3... and for my own enjoyement not to show off everytime someone looked at me
what does a dodge viper have to do with a sled?..... and im telling the truth the majority of these 300 hp plus turbo riders like to talk about how great there sled is then actually perform on the mountain.... not all turbo riders are like that but i seen way to many of those guys last year all talk... and where did you get i go up to turbo guys and tell them to do climb that? like i said there arent that many turbo riders that actually use there sled to there potential...
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sled-fiend
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what does a dodge viper have to do with a sled?..... and im telling the truth the majority of these 300 hp plus turbo riders like to talk about how great there sled is then actually perform on the mountain.... not all turbo riders are like that but i seen way to many of those guys last year all talk... and where did you get i go up to turbo guys and tell them to do climb that? like i said there arent that many turbo riders that actually use there sled to there potential...
Where did I say that you go up to turbo guys and tell them to climb anything?
I've seen you talk alot of smack about what you can do on the mountain, as a matter a fact I've seen you get called out on more than one occasion and that includes a turbo rider, have you ever met up with anyone off snowest and "actually performed" in the mountain as you would say?? Who's really all talk pal
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sled-fiend
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At the end of the day ride what you got and dont worry about what other guys are doing with their sleds 2000 or 40,000!
Where did I say that you go up to turbo guys and tell them to climb anything?
I've seen you talk alot of smack about what you can do on the mountain, as a matter a fact I've seen you get called out on more than one occasion and that includes a turbo rider, have you ever met up with anyone off snowest and "actually performed" in the mountain as you would say?? Who's really all talk pal
''every light there was a guy in a piece of chiiit car telling me to do a burnout, I guess I should of done it every time to please guys like you, especially since it was a 100,000 dollar car huh!''
you are referring to that right there ^^^^ and oh yea the time in revy i was suppose to go up against a turbo yamaha noob.... there was no way i was going to go there to get beat on the hill that is a given, but tree riding id still go up against any yamaha... then the second time he was actually going to come my direction which is way more conveinent for me but it was during spring time when snow was rock hard....i wish something would have been said before rock hard icy crappy snow cause i wanted to compare in the trees powder season... and if noob wants to come ride next year before spring id be down for some good old tree riding....
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sled-fiend
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Basically your saying if a guy has a 40,000 dollar sled he's gotta prove to you that he can ride and not be sitting around otherwise he's got too much money and cant ride? So if you see a guy driving a Ferrari normally around town he's got too much money cant drive right? If you see a guy with a multi million dollar vacation house he's got too much money since he's not there much right? So ya you arent much different than the guys telling you 2 burn off your 2000 dollar tires, you might not say it to them directly but your sure quick to judge their money and capabilities. And hey arent those Apex's suppose to be horrible in the hardpack?? Might have been a better time than any to take noob in the trees
well imho if you own a 40 000 sled and dont do nothing on it whats the point in owning it if its to much sled to handle.... i talked to a guy who straight out says he cant ride so he bought a turbo to compensate.. lol.... i dont no why your getting defensive do you have a turbo sled and sit at the bottom? every one knows a turbo yamaha can climb a hill thats for sure.... haha i dont honestly no how a apex is in hard pack snow but i sure know i wasnt loving it when we were climbing hills to get in and sliding down back wards going up the ravines.
As I get older I tend to find myself doing a little less riding and a little more sitting/BS-ing than I used to do. When I get old enough that I can no longer hang with the next generation you can bet I will be sitting at the bottom on a tricked out sled just looking cool
Sounds like an excuse to me...
winter brew you ever make it to the east side of WA to ride? You sound like good people and if you are ever that way the same time we are I'd like to meet up for a ride, or at least a few cold ones at the bar for some bench racing.
Sorry pud, but sled-fiend has a good point here. I didn't buy a turbo to show off or prove to anyone that my sled is better. I bought mine for personal satisfaction. It's good for the sport, whether turbo gurus climb that hill or not. Look @ all the new changes in the sport of snowmobiling. The one thing I have noticed is when people do ask me about my sled you can tell they are really interested. It only makes a person more excited about sleddin, which is exactly what we need for the sport! Cleaner machines, better performance, less bitc^in environmentalists. It's a win win situation. I applaude BRP for their advancements! BRP has definately noticed the change, hence the 4Tec. I wouldn't be surprised if they have multi 4Tec options in the future!? It's the wave of the future
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modsledr
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too late!!
I was referencing new to new. If you buy a new sled and build it yourself (four stroke for example) it might cost you $20K (just an arbitrary #). If you call up a shop and have them build you a sled, expect it to cost more than that, like lots more.
If you want to compare used to used, then yes, used mods are cheaper in general (I have seen some instances where the cost would be comparable to buy the used sled and the parts - I think these sellers were just starting high though). Used mods are cheaper since (as stated) your time for developing and building is worthless basically and the fact that they are just that - used. If you are buying used mods for "much less" than what the sled and parts are worth combined though, I would imagine that its not a very good running mod, since the good ones are worth about the same price as a stock used sled or just slightly more. That's been my experience anyway.
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Dude, your making me feel bad. I sit at the bottom of the hill all the time on my turbo watching only because I don't want to look like a show-off. I watch guys bang and bang on $30K 1200's trying to pull the top. If I fire up and blow over at 70 mph with out letting my ski's touch the snow everybody thinks I'm a show off.
I did'nt know while I was watching you guys blow up your 2 stroke mods you were actually thinking I was just a decoration that could'nt ride. I was just trying to be polite.
It sucks being at the top. LOL.
oh yea going up against a turbo with a 14 hour drive or better thats a wise plan eh?
Sorry pud, but sled-fiend has a good point here. I didn't buy a turbo to show off or prove to anyone that my sled is better. I bought mine for personal satisfaction. It's good for the sport, whether turbo gurus climb that hill or not. Look @ all the new changes in the sport of snowmobiling. The one thing I have noticed is when people do ask me about my sled you can tell they are really interested. It only makes a person more excited about sleddin, which is exactly what we need for the sport! Cleaner machines, better performance, less bitc^in environmentalists. It's a win win situation. I applaude BRP for their advancements! BRP has definately noticed the change, hence the 4Tec. I wouldn't be surprised if they have multi 4Tec options in the future!? It's the wave of the future
yea parking lot posers.....
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