Any Wifi/Internet Guru's???

[Spaarky]

My shop is maybe 80-100' ft from my house. I would like to have wifi/internet out in the shop. The shop does have steel siding. What are must best/most cost effective way to get internet/wifi out there.

run a cable off the router in the house? Booster/antenna? If anyone has experience, with this please help!!!! I am getting mixed answers. Thanks!!

 

[Spaarky]

I was looking at this...

http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-NanoStation-2-4GHz-Indoor-Outdoor/dp/B004EGI3CI/ref=pd_bxgy_pc_img_y

 

[newmy1]

But a wifi extender. Cheap and work good.

 

[Spaarky]

will they throw signal through the steel shop walls?? 20 year old geek squad kid said no way.

 

[mckinney]

Use WIFI router to WIFI router to create a bridge. Mount a external antenna on the metal building.


mckinney

 

[Spaarky]

wifi router to wifi router... how does that work??

 

[mckinney]

The router has to be capable to do bridge mode. In bridge mode it is like hooking a cable between network switches. It sounds like it is not too obstructed, and you can hook an external antenna to the one in the metal building. You can try newegg.com, I just checked with Bestbuy and the rep sent me an antenna.

Will have to be capable of external antenna as sometimes they have antennas that cannot be changed to external, or you can get an external router that mounts on the exterior of the building. External antenna cheaper usually.


mckinney

 

[mckinney]

Attached pic for reference.

mckinney

 

[newmy1]

By it at best buy and keep it if it works. If not return it.

 

[Spaarky]

By it at best buy and keep it if it works. If not return it.

LMAO. THats what my wife would say.

 

[Spaarky]

So would I need two or three routers?

One in the basement. Half way in between and in the shop? With antena outside.

Or one in basement and one in shop with antenna???

 

[mckinney]

A lot of factors depends how good of signal you can get going thru basement walls. Hit me up with the layout of both buildings.


mckinney

 

[newmy1]

Thus why I suggested you try and buy. No real way to know what will work.

 

[Spaarky]

If you look at the satellite view, the garage is on the side with the driveway. The router is in the basement, mechanical room, center right hand side of the garage.

If you look at the shop, brown roof building. The side with the enclosed trailer is my shop bench. Easy access there. Front and front left has concrete. I could still get in up there. I have some sleeves under and through the concrete.

I get wifi on my phone in the garage and a little bit on the driveway. I haven't checked with my lap top.

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I will go to BB and get some stuff. Only thing they didn't have was the antenna. I don't know if I could get that at Radio Shack or something.

 

[mckinney]

The newer technologies will go thru walls better but line of sight is the best. If you can get both antennas as close to line of sight the best. The better your signal the better. Make sure you get descent antennas. Don't have to spend a bunch.

 

[Minten]

Instead of creating a bridge, I would would set the place up with one of these.

http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-Powerline-Wireless-Extender-PLWK400/dp/B0087O6AQE

That way, if you need more coverage in certain areas, it is cheap and easy to do. Powerline has a range of potential possibilities, including the ability to save tremendous amounts of money, and most importantly, set -up time.

 

[Minten]

Ps. I set up my girlfriends single story, 3500 s/ft with a single adapter costing a mere $20

Here is a cheaper example:
http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WP...426825293&sr=8-4&keywords=powerline+with+wifi

Personally, I would invest in a 802.11AC router and one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WA854RE-Universal-Wireless-Indicator/dp/B00KVIXCCO/ref=pd_cp_pc_2

That would give the maximum coverage, with minimal pricing.

Then again it would be possible to have a powerline network comprised of only extenders....

 

[LoudHandle]

Ps. I set up my girlfriends single story, 3500 s/ft with a single adapter costing a mere $20

Here is a cheaper example:
http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WP...426825293&sr=8-4&keywords=powerline+with+wifi

Personally, I would invest in a 802.11AC router and one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WA854RE-Universal-Wireless-Indicator/dp/B00KVIXCCO/ref=pd_cp_pc_2

That would give the maximum coverage, with minimal pricing.

Then again it would be possible to have a powerline network comprised of only extenders....

Sorry for the detour, but may still be helpful for someone.

Question, I have three properties in the same subdivision each with their own power service. The one we live in is on the South side of the street and the other two are on the North side of the street and down a few lots. I spend a lot of time at the two properties to the North, because the garages are larger. Do power companies use any filters between power services to scrub this type of piggyback signal or could I put an extender or two in each property and only (use / pay for) 1 internet feed from the provider? They are just far enough apart that a traditional WiFi extender is hit and miss currently. Especially when snowing or raining.

Looks cheap enough to buy and try, if nobody knows. Thanks!

 

[Spaarky]

Instead of creating a bridge, I would would set the place up with one of these.

http://www.amazon.com/Linksys-Powerline-Wireless-Extender-PLWK400/dp/B0087O6AQE

That way, if you need more coverage in certain areas, it is cheap and easy to do. Powerline has a range of potential possibilities, including the ability to save tremendous amounts of money, and most importantly, set -up time.

This looks great. One thing, from the house outlets, the signal would have to run out to the transformer/meter, then into the shop. Its a long run, and then running it through the transformer... not sure how that would work.

 

[Minten]

This looks great. One thing, from the house outlets, the signal would have to run out to the transformer/meter, then into the shop. Its a long run, and then running it through the transformer... not sure how that would work.

I didn't think about that....

"The circuit breaker panel is the point of convergence for the cross-phase coupling. All circuits connect to the same common bus bars via circuit breakers or fuses. The bus bars provide some coupling because of interbus stray capacitance. "
- http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/mydownloads/plc_cross-phase_coupling.pdf (Sections 3)


So no, anything reverted past the power distribution board will not work.

So now we will have to revert to a bridged network.
Do you have an guesstimate on the distance between the areas that the accesspoints?

You asked earlier about in you should purchase 2 or 3 routers. Well, I have your solution.
http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-UAP-...qid=1426959907&sr=8-5&keywords=ubiquiti+unifi
So the Amazon description sucks, but if you check out Ubiquiti Networks website ( https://www.ubnt.com/unifi/unifi-ap/ ) then you can see a theoretical comparison in the range. The model I chose for you is the LR or long range one, giving you a maximum spread of 600 feet (depending on configuration)