rio i bought the nytro for 2 reasons, it is a true rider forward, at this point nothing else is acceptible to me, and i wanted to try a four stroke i new it was not going to be a killer mountain sled when i bought it, and you are right i did ad the stuff on not out of nessesity but i wanted better performance, i will have to fix the bent front end, just like i had to fix my driveshaft on the doo before it broke. my point is what does it matter to you are you a yamaha salesman and want to put the whole world on one? the little cheap shots by people that dont even own one and get ther info from the net is old but i guess some people just cant resist running the mouth. next sled for me is a cat when and if they put the mountain segment in there twin spar chassis then a polaris if they put there mountain segment in the IQ chassis so bottom line your wrong about why i own the nytro, your wrong about any brand loyalty blinders, for me ski doo offers the most traights i want in a snowmobile right now. fun and power to weight, and aperantly 38 out of every 100 sold agree. where what you ride aprx. 15 out of 100 agree with your choice. one ? after riding the nytro could you go back to a traditional non rider forward sled say apex since your blue to the core?