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Another criminal off the streets,

Those who know me know that I am not pro law enforcement. Fact is my previous posts here will show that my belief is that all govt including law enforcement is too big.

That being said, if we expect a cop to protect us, I certainly would not diminish his right to protect himself, which is what I will continue to believe this officer was doing until it is proven otherwise.
 
There is probably no one on this forum that challenges government and law enforcement than I do but with that said I challenge even more "progressives" who constantly challenge every time a black gets dealt with just as any other criminal and the constant jumping to erroneous conclusions based solely on race and I guess presumed guilt. MA is a liberal troll and only boosts his credentials with almost every post. That's the operating procedure of liberals, ignore the facts and trash the individuals!


Last week, a video was released of a man who is by all accounts Michael Brown shoving a much smaller man during a convenience store robbery just prior to the shooting. Autopsy results recently disputed witness accounts that police had shot Brown in the back while his hands were raised, as well.
In addition, a witness conversation accidentally caught on video has also arisen and seems to confirm police accounts of the shooting.

And that’s not the only confirmation Ferguson police have so far received, according to reports.
RedFlag News cites St. Louis Post-Dispatch crime reporter Christine Byers as writing on her Twitter account that local police have confirmed the officer’s version of events with “more than a dozen witnesses.”
This is not terribly surprising, but it is obviously big news if it turns out to be an accurate report.
Despite the race-baiters demands for “answers” from the local police, there is a reason to withhold some information from the public during the initial stages of an ongoing investigation. This demonstrates one of those reasons–to prevent witnesses from collaborating testimony that they have already heard.
When independent witness testimony agrees on the essential facts of an incident, investigators can have much more confidence in the reliability of that testimony. That appears to be the case here.
 
During my training days I chose to spend three weeks in forensic pathology. In other words, medical examiner's office. It was during a gang war of sorts and I learned more about gun related deaths and investigations relating to police shootings than I am contractually allowed to share. A person could spend a lifetime learning the finer arts of that specialty.

What I will say is this: any "for-hire" pathologist is like any "for-hire" lawyer. I do not need to elaborate. Coroner's offices that give independent reports DO NOT work for the police. They may work for the county, but that is the extent of the relationship. For each autopsy we painstakingly completed we sat and gave findings as objectively and, as possible, completely word-for-word to each side of a case. What was impressive was how differently each side twisted things and begged for more details that frankly were not there. If you do not have a bullet or casings, you do not know how many shots were fired. If you have not fired that exact same gun and cartridge, you do not know the powder/flash range exactly. The angle of entry is completely useless unless you consider the possibilities of the arc of a circle (i.e. officer on the ground shooting up etc). To speak on the matter as if you have such knowledge is wholesomely irresponsible and makes me shudder that this guy ever took the oath to protect and serve humanity to the best of his ability upon completing medical school. His job is to be objective. NOTHING MORE. Medical examiners are supposed to provide data like a computer without analysis.

What has been most amusing to me in this entire thing is the comments from Obama about how men of color have such a stigma about violence and such and what are they out there doing? Looting, burning, shooting, etc. Uh hello? Anyone know where stereotypes start? :face-icon-small-con
 
During my training days I chose to spend three weeks in forensic pathology. In other words, medical examiner's office. It was during a gang war of sorts and I learned more about gun related deaths and investigations relating to police shootings than I am contractually allowed to share. A person could spend a lifetime learning the finer arts of that specialty.

What I will say is this: any "for-hire" pathologist is like any "for-hire" lawyer. I do not need to elaborate. Coroner's offices that give independent reports DO NOT work for the police. They may work for the county, but that is the extent of the relationship. For each autopsy we painstakingly completed we sat and gave findings as objectively and, as possible, completely word-for-word to each side of a case. What was impressive was how differently each side twisted things and begged for more details that frankly were not there. If you do not have a bullet or casings, you do not know how many shots were fired. If you have not fired that exact same gun and cartridge, you do not know the powder/flash range exactly. The angle of entry is completely useless unless you consider the possibilities of the arc of a circle (i.e. officer on the ground shooting up etc). To speak on the matter as if you have such knowledge is wholesomely irresponsible and makes me shudder that this guy ever took the oath to protect and serve humanity to the best of his ability upon completing medical school. His job is to be objective. NOTHING MORE. Medical examiners are supposed to provide data like a computer without analysis.

So you are questioning the private pathologist that the family hired, because his story differs from that of the original ME? So he must be biased and giving false information to help those who hired him?

I'm guessing a former ME of NYC would be more qualified than a county coroner in Missouri, and if he can really be biased to do an unprofessional job for money, why couldn't he have been biased as a public ME towards say, the police who he works with everyday, or anyone else?

So apparently the same person can only be biased when working private sector?
 
Yeah I'm sure they just made up that autopsy report.

We won't know but there is probably zero chance a cop has ever lied right?

Again, I'm not saying one way or the other but the cops word means about as much as the paper that report is on.


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You would side with a thug criminal than a cop that's been on the job for 6 years without so much as complaint on his record??? He thought the Cop was there to arrest him for the robbery he just committed and went for the Cops gun when he had a chance. The Cop should get a medal for getting rid of this POS.
 
You would side with a thug criminal than a cop that's been on the job for 6 years without so much as complaint on his record??? He thought the Cop was there to arrest him for the robbery he just committed and went for the Cops gun when he had a chance. The Cop should get a medal for getting rid of this POS.


I'm not siding with anyone. I think it suspicious that he was shot with no weapon and his hands up.

The cop was not there to arrest him for the robbery. At the time of the shooting the cop was aware a robbery took place.


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I'm not siding with anyone. I think it suspicious that he was shot with no weapon and his hands up.

The cop was not there to arrest him for the robbery. At the time of the shooting the cop was aware a robbery took place.


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The thug criminal didn't know the cop wasn't there to arrest him. Where is the evidence that he had his hands up in the air?
 
Autopsy does not confirm that! and how about the 12 witnesses that match the officers statements and the witness video and audio that confirms the officers statement and the fact the officer has a broken bone in his face from the attack. Quit selecting claims that look to bolster a rogue officer and stick with the facts!

Autopsy shows that. Plus the 20 or so eye witnesses


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I've yet to read any of that. care to share a link?


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Did you miss this?
And that’s not the only confirmation Ferguson police have so far received, according to reports.
RedFlag News cites St. Louis Post-Dispatch crime reporter Christine Byers as writing on her Twitter account that local police have confirmed the officer’s version of events with “more than a dozen witnesses.”
This is not terribly surprising, but it is obviously big news if it turns out to be an accurate report.
Despite the race-baiters demands for “answers” from the local police, there is a reason to withhold some information from the public during the initial stages of an ongoing investigation. This demonstrates one of those reasons–to prevent witnesses from collaborating testimony that they have already heard.

How about: http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/source-cop-nearly-beaten-unconscious-by-brown/#fQWabvOIDhyIWWHf.99

Or: http://conservativetribune.com/eyewitness-video-confirms/
You going to blame the cop on this one to:http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/black-cop-kills-white-man-media-hide-race/
 
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Wait untill the grand jury finds that there is no evidence to indict the officer......call the insurance company because the whole city will be destroyed while Obama and Eric "the hustler" Holder watch and smile.
 
Wait untill the grand jury finds that there is no evidence to indict the officer......call the insurance company because the whole city will be destroyed while Obama and Eric "the hustler" Holder watch and smile.


This isn't about either of them. This is a state matter at most.

You'd probably bitch and moan if they were stepping in and complaining how the Feds are overstepping their bounds.


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Why not patrol the streets with flame throwers......
Simply melt the looters & rioters without firing a single shot.
Can it possibly get any more peaceful than that?
 
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