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Am I a flatlander? I know it's derogitory...

IMO we are ALL flatlanders unless you actually live on the mountain. If you live 30 miles from mtn. you are still traveling to get there like anybody else. I think locals use the term in a derogatory way because alot of locals are pizzed at the fact they have to share the mtn that they live so close to. Not all but you have to admit alot of locals feel that way specially when they look at 80% of the plates in the parking lot and out of staters.

Hmmm, "all flatlanders unless you live on a mountain"?...

As a lifer in a very popular riding area in BC, I can say that the majority of locals here welcome the out of town riders. They support our economy and pay trail passes to keep our areas maintained and clubs operating.
80% out of town plates = more motel rooms, food, gas, trail fees, sled rentals...there are a few selfish locals, but not many. The area works actively to promote sledding and attract out of town riders.
Around here you see the majority of out of province plates in the parking lot because the locals know where and when to ride to avoid the crowds!
 
But I disagree that the equipment doesn't make the rider, it sure does. You'll never develope the skill If you never get to the top. It must be nice to have both the good sled and the skill.

Owen

Hmm, makes it hard to learn anything if you never fail. Does it make a difference in learning new skills that I made the whole hill or or just 3/4 of it?

Can't really think of any skill that I would learn on that 1/4 of a hill if horsepower or lack thereof was the only problem to making it. Futhermore, I would have learned more having to turn out of climb....

New sleds and big horsepower are fun, but they don't make you a good rider. They can help you learn easier (rider forward position for example) but they don't make you become a good rider.

Am I a good rider? No, but I sure have fun trying to be. :)
 
Thats good cause the chick I'm thinkin of is a douchebag...I'm a flatlander and proud of it ha ha....I have family in Invermere and ride out there and in Golden a fair bit...know and rode with a few of the locals from both places...friends of mine own GSR in Golden...

Hmm, nope I'm not called a douchebag very often...glad I'm not that chick by the sound of it...
I'm a fan of so-called 'flatlanders' and have friends who come out and ride quite often. As a lifer in the valley I know more people from Alberta than locals and it gets you out of that 'them vs us' way of thinking that some have. But... I still think there can be a bit of difference in riding style sometimes...ha ha.
We know Kim and Aaron too through their shop, we try and support them as much as we can. Friends rent from them when renting. Good People!
 
Ha ha....yeah that chicks from ontario or somethin.....talks like she knows it all...you might know some of my family there last name Zaleschuk...ring a bell? Yeah Aaron and Kim are greats peeps....try and plug them as much as I can on the forums :beer;
 
Ha ha....yeah that chicks from ontario or somethin.....talks like she knows it all...you might know some of my family there last name Zaleschuk...ring a bell? Yeah Aaron and Kim are greats peeps....try and plug them as much as I can on the forums :beer;

Don't know of any Zaleschuk's that I'm recalling.
I'm a little concerned...you thought I might be the chick from the Esso...she's a douchebag and thinks she knows it all... I better watch how I come across in my posts...ha ha. However, I guess we all tend to think we know it all sometimes.
 
Don't know of any Zaleschuk's that I'm recalling.
I'm a little concerned...you thought I might be the chick from the Esso...she's a douchebag and thinks she knows it all... I better watch how I come across in my posts...ha ha. However, I guess we all tend to think we know it all sometimes.

Don't take it badly wasn't basing it on reading your posts, just a process of elimination ha ha.....one of my aunts(last name Parent)did work at the rcmp office in Inver and used to work at an office in Radium for a saw mill her husband works for a logging company his names Ernie, he played lots of hockey around there too....another was a nurse at the hospital there, she just moved. Grandpa passed away mid 90's worked for BC Hydro.
 
to me i would have to say just because you live in the flatlands, but travel and snowmobile in the mountains all the time, it would make you a mountain rider, now if you live in the flats and only snowmobile in the flats, well thats a flatlander to me, imo, so i think its excellent you are traveling to the mountains, i grew up in the mountains, and i miss it so much, for me to travel back home and snowmobile where i love to, its almost a 3000km trip one way, now if anyone out of prov was to go snowmobile in my old town, i would gladly take them up and show them the playing grounds, next year i'm moving out of the arctic and into alberta, stoney plains to be exact, now i cant wait to be there, because the mountains are only a few hrs away, and not a 2 day drive, now if i was to ride around in alberta, it would only be to go ice fishing, i miss being home in bc, so i just travel there alot :D
 
I would think if you have the skills to really ride the mountains as opposed to just riding in the mountains or up the mountains...you are a mountain rider! No matter where you are from!

There are some locals that have only riden in the mountains that ride like 'flatlanders'...and always will! There's a special skill no matter where you ride! It should be the skill, style of riding and type of sled that determine what kind of rider you are as opposed to your geographical location. But riding in the mountains, sitting on the seat, hanging your butt out to turn and driving straight up the big hill and straight back down...that just doesn't cut it.

Flatlanders would say "Look at those idiot Mountain riders darting all over the trails without their swaybars..." as they fly by us at 150 mph...through the corners.
 
I've been reading thru this post and all I can say is , who gives a @#$& what I'm called. All I know is that at the end of the day, wether I'm in the ditches back home or in the mountains out West, I have a smile on my face and a good day of ridin in! Ready for a steak & beer and hit it again the next day. You guys (& gals) keep arguing over this name branding - I'm gonna be ridin
 
Most of the "flatlanders" I know seem to be be proud of the fact that they are able to drive 12 hours and still ride the alpine---they usually ask for riding advice and we are happy to ablige. Getting them unstuck(s) is another story:rolleyes:

BCB
 
I dont think the word "flatlander" was intended to be derogatory. It isnt to me anyway. It just means somebody from the mid west. Unless of coarse you get stuck the word changes meaning:D Its a fond term really thats hard to shake off. We got one guy in the Spokane posse , who can ride with the best of em, but his name on the forum is still XFL (ex-flatlander). :beer;:beer;:beer;
 
to me i would have to say just because you live in the flatlands, but travel and snowmobile in the mountains all the time, it would make you a mountain rider, now if you live in the flats and only snowmobile in the flats, well thats a flatlander to me, imo, so i think its excellent you are traveling to the mountains, i grew up in the mountains, and i miss it so much, for me to travel back home and snowmobile where i love to, its almost a 3000km trip one way, now if anyone out of prov was to go snowmobile in my old town, i would gladly take them up and show them the playing grounds, next year i'm moving out of the arctic and into alberta, stoney plains to be exact, now i cant wait to be there, because the mountains are only a few hrs away, and not a 2 day drive, now if i was to ride around in alberta, it would only be to go ice fishing, i miss being home in bc, so i just travel there alot :D

At it again are ya Bullhead??:p
 
I used to ride with a group of guys from the midwest. They all had great equipment, very well kept, ran fairly decent, but these guys were your typical flatlanders. They would travel all the way from Moorehead, MN. pick up a couple guys in Bismarck, travel all the way to IP and ride the fricken flatlands. They eventually bored me to tears, I don't even make an effort to ride with these guys any simply because being on the couch watching football has ten times the excitement factor.
 
Hmmm, "all flatlanders unless you live on a mountain"?...

As a lifer in a very popular riding area in BC, I can say that the majority of locals here welcome the out of town riders. They support our economy and pay trail passes to keep our areas maintained and clubs operating.
80% out of town plates = more motel rooms, food, gas, trail fees, sled rentals...there are a few selfish locals, but not many. The area works actively to promote sledding and attract out of town riders.
Around here you see the majority of out of province plates in the parking lot because the locals know where and when to ride to avoid the crowds!

I have rode in your area and that is true...you have apparently not rode here. You will not get such a warm welcome sad to say. We have business owners in a town that is right on mountain that support and have even spear headed the sniffers to help shut down sledding. Peeps here doo use "flatlander" as a derogitory comment so dont think the world is full of rainbows and roses just because it is in your own backyard.
 
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