Alpine Lakes & Dirtbikes

[smallhill]

Can`t post after a couple of responces. So to Newtrout! I have many fond memories of riding my Hodaka in the Alpine lakes in the late sixties early seventys. I thought it was our forest, or is it just yours?????? I make a point to get at least six miles in to that wi;lderness at least once everyother year on my trials bike, tasts rite its got a motor!!!! I would make a point to go every year if it were not for all these people that think its just there forest. Another note to Randonnee If you skied the Navahoe Basin so much how come if I ride that area thirty times a year how come I can only count on one finger the amount of times I have seen skiers in that basin. I to randonnee ski but I also snowmobile. I do not try to get other people to lose there rites. Look at all the open area for skiing Mechanised bindigs, look how little alpine area is open to snowmobiles, yes alpine not some stupid flat fs road, its not an even playing field. Why do you not just keep your skinning on flat service roads, Maybe you will feal better about the fairness

 

[newtrout]

Can`t post after a couple of responces. So to Newtrout! I have many fond memories of riding my Hodaka in the Alpine lakes in the late sixties early seventys. I thought it was our forest, or is it just yours?????? I make a point to get at least six miles in to that wi;lderness at least once everyother year on my trials bike, tasts rite its got a motor!!!! I would make a point to go every year if it were not for all these people that think its just there forest. Another note to Randonnee If you skied the Navahoe Basin so much how come if I ride that area thirty times a year how come I can only count on one finger the amount of times I have seen skiers in that basin. I to randonnee ski but I also snowmobile. I do not try to get other people to lose there rites. Look at all the open area for skiing Mechanised bindigs, look how little alpine area is open to snowmobiles, yes alpine not some stupid flat fs road, its not an even playing field. Why do you not just keep your skinning on flat service roads, Maybe you will feal better about the fairness

Did you even read the post you're referring to? I said I could understand how someone would feel 'grandfathered' in if they were old enough to have been using the area pre-Wilderness. Obviously you were. I don't think I have the right to argue with your perspective.

Please don't paint me on the same side as the skiers. I have very different motivations. My only goal is to keep our riding areas open. Their goal is to keep their areas to themselves. I'm sure you have the same goal that I do, we just choose to go about it in different ways.

 

[skis_n_skid]

...and the point of posting this thread is what? As if breaking the law and riding in non-motorized areas was something to be proud of?

 

[PowderMiner]

I know; not PowderMiner again …

Just to point out that there are very valid points made from all (Snowest) opinions.

I just want to remind Snowmobilers and those that consider themselves snow users…
Snowmobiles are despised, harshly criticized, and actionably opposed not only in the wilderness. The people that oppose snowmobiles, people who ride them, manufacturers, and any inkling of support are fundamentally against the manufacture, purchase, storage, transport, unloading, private or public land use, competition, and anyone who’d dream of supporting the existence of such machines.

The few people in a few areas are breaking a law, and there are those who are obligated to show dissatisfaction with the actions; but that is not the major threat to our or our children’s opportunities to continue riding into the future.

I still believe that organizational support and outreach is the best chance we have to sustain our sport. We have little chance to gain areas, but there are some ideas that can be passed on to the access managers with valid reasoning to at least keep the backpressure on… This includes some suggestions like limited alpine access, additional or multiple designated access spaces, additional signage with alternative mapping, ect…

And please remember that this forum is still available to anyone, they might only get to see the first page, once registered (and not paid), but even the snowmobile opponents can do a simple Google search for snowmobile forums and make all kinds of accusations or whatever.

Also some ones real name can be Googled and associated with their posts and possibly, depending on your life and ambitions, a serious threat to such. If you post a name the person that’s name is posted can request the post be deleted. Not to mention the damage to Snowest membership and participation.

I know several of the posters on these subjects, with varied opinions, and just want everyone know that most of you are great guys who’d get along great and enjoy the experience riding and enjoying the outdoors together.

So lets remember that, at least the fellow sledders have a deep common bond that should be honored even if you disagree. State your criticism but try not to personally attack each other, might lose a chance at a good riding buddy.

These thoughts are just my humble opinion, and I do respect yours.