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ABS/Pulse bag on a credit card thoughts.

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CuzzinOlaf

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It seems that there is a higher risk of avalanches this winter because of the how the snow setup. I have a beacon and probe but have been thinking about a Avy bag as of recently. I don't have an extra $1200 sitting around and would just throw it on a credit card. I don't want to do this as I am trying to clear up any/all debt int he next two years... but what good is that if you're dead. I live in the midwest and only get to ride out west 2-3 times a year so the need is a lot less for me compared to the lucky SOBs that live out west. You really can't put a dollar value on your life and something keeps telling me to just buy a bag on the card. I am not aware of places that rent the bags so buying one is pretty much my only option. Has anyone else been in this same dilemma and what did you do? $1200 for a bag that I'll only wear 10 days a year is hard to swallow. I know the bag isn't 100% guaranteed to save a life... but a 98% success ratio is very good. Meadows are fun to carve up but get boring after a while. I know someone will say to just stay off the slopes that are unsafe but I'll still worry about the ones that 'look' safe.

Thoughts?
 
I bought mine two years ago on a credit card. I say yes:D Even if it takes you a year to pay it off, so what? The finance charges will help stimulate the economy:face-icon-small-win It's tough to argue with a 98% success rate:)
 
i am amazed at the success rate..really a person can.t afford to be without one ...we should all be forced into it and the manufacturers charge us for them when we buy the sled...a non negotiable option...lol...im going to research these guys...l have an inflatable life jacket...they seem kinda cheap...gives me the feeling of non trust...im sure these abs are better quality...are they comfortable...??...anyway with the economy bad these things should come down in price..???..
 
tundra twin track said:
Buy it,make monthly payments it is something you do for yourself!Saved my butt,Story on avy awareness on this forum(thumbs up for ABS).

Have a safe winter!
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I head for Colorado on Thursday morning. I doubt I could get one prior to leaving. Uggggh! Maybe I'll buy one at the dealer there.

m8magicandmystery said:
i am amazed at the success rate..really a person can.t afford to be without one ...we should all be forced into it and the manufacturers charge us for them when we buy the sled...a non negotiable option...lol...im going to research these guys...l have an inflatable life jacket...they seem kinda cheap...gives me the feeling of non trust...im sure these abs are better quality...are they comfortable...??...anyway with the economy bad these things should come down in price..???..
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Agreed. :beer;
 
have it shipped to where you are staying. i ordered one last week coming in on tues and i'am off to west. it sounds like this year is the year to have one
 
Is this thread a joke? It is a heck of a lot easier (plus highly recommended) to simply stay out of dangerous terrain/situations until the snow has settled. I'm no expert but take a look at the slopes, note the current and recent past weather conditions and if the wind has been blowing. Take those factors into consideration and chances are you'll never even need the vest (which is a product of last resort anyhow). Chances are you'll get broken bones or a crushed chest by being slid down a mountain and buried by snow than if you are lucky enough to remember and be able to place the snorkel into your mouth while being buried in an avalanche. I'd save your money and use your head.
 
akrider said:
is this thread a joke? It is a heck of a lot easier (plus highly recommended) to simply stay out of dangerous terrain/situations until the snow has settled. I'm no expert but take a look at the slopes, note the current and recent past weather conditions and if the wind has been blowing. Take those factors into consideration and chances are you'll never even need the vest (which is a product of last resort anyhow). Chances are you'll get broken bones or a crushed chest by being slid down a mountain and buried by snow than if you are lucky enough to remember and be able to place the snorkel into your mouth while being buried in an avalanche. I'd save your money and use your head.
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AKrider said:
Is this thread a joke? It is a heck of a lot easier (plus highly recommended) to simply stay out of dangerous terrain/situations until the snow has settled. I'm no expert but take a look at the slopes, note the current and recent past weather conditions and if the wind has been blowing. Take those factors into consideration and chances are you'll never even need the vest (which is a product of last resort anyhow). Chances are you'll get broken bones or a crushed chest by being slid down a mountain and buried by snow than if you are lucky enough to remember and be able to place the snorkel into your mouth while being buried in an avalanche. I'd save your money and use your head.
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Snorkel in your mouth and a vest? I am talking about an ABS bag and not the Avalung. I understand what you're saying about stay off of dangerous terrain... but freak things happen and I'd rather be safe than sorry. Sorry if you're life is a joke... but mine isn't.
 
Cuzz, if it gives you peace-of-mind, by all means buy/wear an Avy pack. But understand, it won't fix stupid. As has been said, it's a last resort device. Much better right now to stay clear of danger areas and ride with some good common sense rather than risk it.

I'll be there with you this coming Thur. and I'm a lot more concerned that you flatlanders know how to use that new beacon, probe, and shovel. Right now isn't a good time to be rolling the dice anywhere in the mountains.
 
Mistakes Happen

I agree that when conditions are high risk , avoidance is the best practice but in reality when conditions go to moderate people get compliant with their riding habits.Tranceivers,probe and shovel are all tools for locating and digging some one who has been buried.I still use all those safety devices,but let's face it if your in a avy a mistake has been made and the airbag gives you that chance to stay on top.I was very happy with how the pack saved me from being buried,on top is better than being under.

Have a safe WINTER!
 
People have died just riding the trail in Cook below Daisy on town side and heard recently some guys were buried on town side of LuLu. Those two places are not exactly stupid riding unless you want to say mtn sledding is stupid. You can only ride about half of Cook if you don't go through those two passes.

Good Luck

If I was going early this year to slide prone areas I'd be figuring a way to get one. Pretty much decided I will in the next year for sure.
 
Guys, I'm not telling him don't buy. I'm telling him don't rely on any piece of equipment to keep him 100% safe. The ABS system is a great tool, but it's not 100%. 95% means 5 out of the 100 are going home in a bag. No tool is going to surpass knowledge and common sense, and just knowing when to call it quits and get out of harms way.

Oh and togwotee9, since I'll be riding with them, and further since I know they all just bought beacons, yeah I'd like to know they are able to use them. Comment wasn't aimed directly at you. Because of where I live and ride, wearing, practicing, and being able to use my beacon has become second nature. I wouldn't ride without it anymore than without my boots.

Anyway just my .02 ........ flame on now.
 
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