A Arm Failure

[Sleddogg]

Just showing what happened to me this last weekend. Going down steep hill slowly and ski hit rock. No bending just pulled the tube out.
Sent to Polaris to see if the will warranty.. dealer and I thinking they will.
Yes it got updated arms before I picked it up..I am not scared though..this sled kicks a$$ and Polaris has taken care of me so far!

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[Murph]

Oh Gawd, cue the intro music for "whoisthatguy" and his engineering theories.

Can't wait for him to tell all of us what idiots Polaris engineers are....

 

[Rick!]

Oh Gawd, cue the intro music for "whoisthatguy" and his engineering theories.

Can't wait for him to tell all of us what idiots Polaris engineers are....

You've got it all wrong. Dull Knifedge is going to chime in with how this is related to loose piston clearances.

 

[MATCO]

Mine did the same thing. But I had the blk original arms. The daler replaced them under a service bulletin. I have not had a chance to ride it since the repair.

 

[robadoodle]

hope they aint backordered

 

[seth25]

Saw the same thing happen this weekend. Nothing bent, just popped out of the mount.

 

[Reg2view]

Thinking about it, this is kinda nutz. These are the kind of a failures - steering, fire, throttles sticking, brakes failing - that keeps the OEM's product liability attorneys eating their fingernails. I have to suspect there could be a safety recall on a bunch of sleds at some point. If it will happen is anybody else's guess, but it's not good for anyone. Thanks for sharing.

 

[COP-OUT]

RUST

looking at the pictures; it looks like rust on the end. Unless that Lords adhesive is rust colored. Maybe the Lords didn't spread out enough to bond both pieces together and water got into the end,causing that failure??? Maybe the water froze and expanded the fitting. Causing the A arm to come apart.

 

[HenkeEdge]

Just showing what happened to me this last weekend. Going down steep hill slowly and ski hit rock. No bending just pulled the tube out.
Sent to Polaris to see if the will warranty.. dealer and I thinking they will.
Yes it got updated arms before I picked it up..I am not scared though..this sled kicks a$$ and Polaris has taken care of me so far!

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Heard anything yet?
This happend to a friend of my on his Retro Pro-RMK, last week when we where up in nothern Sweden, he maby felt a little bump right under the ski. But nothing that should cause that pipe coming loose.

The upper a-arm got a very small crack in the powder coating in the front weld-area. We think that is from a chain reaction because that tube got loose.

Polaris Scandinavia is NOT replacing his under the guarantee, thats a f-in joke if you ask me.

We both work in the NDE/NDT-department on a steel company and have several years experience of damage inspection.

 

[WSS]

I had a similar experience: http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=334807

Curious how Polaris takes care of you.

 

[crf118r]

That sucks. I read the above thread when WSS first posted it. I was looking mine over wondering if I should drill out the glue holes and rivet them in to add a little more beef to the connection. Hope Poo comes through for ya.

 

[HenkeEdge]

That sucks. I read the above thread when WSS first posted it. I was looking mine over wondering if I should drill out the glue holes and rivet them in to add a little more beef to the connection. Hope Poo comes through for ya.

I have been wondering the same, but I dont know what to do. Dont know if I can trust the -13 polaris A-arm design, dont think I want to take the chance getting another "trip" spoiled if my does the same.

My friend is looking for some Zbroz or other A-arms now. Maby best to do the same and try to sell the original without any modifications.

The temporary fix on my friends sledge is with a bolt and nut straight thru. The dealer up there wher we were told us to do that instead of using rivets. That dealer was giving us a new a-arm at first, and thought there were no question about it, being a guarantee replacement.
But after putting the order (it should have arrived later same day) and after some conversation with Polaris Scandinavia he heard that he wouldnt get any compensation from them. And my friend refused to buy a new ****ty overpriced a-arm for around 4000:- Swedish Crowns (~$650)

This is a problem Polaris must know about for sure! In 2012 on a exibition in Umeå in Sweden (Nolia-mässan) the Pro-RMK -13 they had there, this bolt and nut repair were made to the a-arm.

 

[Sleddogg]

I had to buy a new one so I could ride and they were not back ordered.. just expensive...
I haven't heard anything yet..
I did notice the rust color as well..

I told him if they didn't warranty it I wanted it back so I can either put Lords in it to fix it or run a bolt through for a spare...

He said I would be lucky to get it back... even if they didn't warranty it..
'Im still staying positive though

 

[skibreeze]

Polaris A arms are overpriced crap, I pulled mine off new and sold them. You guys really need to look into aftermarket arms. I can damn near buy 2 lowers for what Polaris wants for 1.

 

[Quicksand]

Polaris A arms are overpriced crap, I pulled mine off new and sold them. You guys really need to look into aftermarket arms. I can damn near buy 2 lowers for what Polaris wants for 1.

What kind of arms are you runing now?

 

[volcano buster]

If it does not get warrantied, you should have every right to get your A-arm back. Not like they bought it from you or exchanged for a different one.

I thought it looked good enough to clean up and reglue.

 

[theletup]

Mine pretty much did the SAME EXACT THING.... Barely bumped a tiny branch... psshh... God damn polaris a-arms!!!



Edit: Just so people know, my sled actually smashed a tree at full throttle due to a tether failure. Ran away from me about 100 feet with tether disconnected and hit tree at wide full open. Accordion tunnel, crushed bulkhead, broken engine, broken every thing pretty much. Yes a-arm were obliterated and I feel like the they should have held up. lol j/k about that last part.

Not a joke though: This was a Pro Design tether and take it however you want but I won't be using one ever again. Safety device doesn't do you much good if it doesn't kill the sled. Sorry to jack the thread. Please don't hate on me

 

[pacian]

Deleted sway bar!

 

[winter]

http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3293252#post3293252


This is my first online complaint since beginning on snowest in 2003.
I am assuming it is justifiable.
After a easy ride with my wife and son this weekend I was cleaning the snow off the sleds and noticed a 1/4" rusty ring around the back tube of the R lower a-arm on my wife's 2013 600 Pro.
This is where the tube glues into the Aluminum piece. I lifted the sled and could move the aluminum in and out about 1/4 to 3/8 of an inch. I took the sled to the dealer, they took photos of the sled and sent me home with a new A-Arm.
I also took the old A-Arm off the sled and bought it to the dealer.
I received a call later from the dealer saying the a-arm is not warrantied apperently this is because Polaris did a pull test on the arm before it left Polaris. Polaris techs are saying we must have hit something with the sled.
Yet we did not hit anything, there are no signs on the arms, skis or any other part of the sled to show differently.
I am assuming the bond was not good in the first place..
It is clear that the tube has been loose for some time as lots of rust is present, and very little adhesive is present, this is an unsafe product or at least the Quality Control is lacking.
I have been Building custom Polaris sleds since 2002, this year I purchased 3 new Pros, I do not feel I can continue to support a company that does not stand behind thier products.
Since the advent of the 900 RMK I feel Polaris has been using the customers as thier R&D dept and they are not standing behind thier mistakes.
The Safety issue here is that Polaris is building machine's that travel at speeds close to 100 MPH with weak and faulty control systems, this is not safe for anyone.
I did not fuss about the drive shaft issue but a rider can die if an A- arm fails at high speed.
I have contacted my dealer as well as Polaris Ind throught thier website.
Please check your sleds each and every Ride.

 

[JMCX]

http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3293252#post3293252



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This is my first online complaint since being on snowest 2003.
I am assuming it is justifiable.
After a easy ride with my wife and son this weekend I was cleaning the snow off the sleds and noticed a 1/4" rusty ring around the back tube of the R lower a-arm on my wife's 2013 600 Pro.
This is where the tube glues into the Aluminum piece. I lifted the sled and could move the aluminum in and out about 1/4 to 3/8 of an inch. I took the sled to the dealer, they took photos of the sled and sent me home with a new A-Arm, I just received a call from the dealer saying the a-arm is not warrantied this is because they did a pull test on the arm before it left Polaris.
They are saying we must have hit something. I can say this, we did not hit anything with this sled, I am assuming the bond was not good and the pull test did not create a better bond but loosened it.
It is clear that the tube has been loose for some time as lots of rust is present, it is an unsafe design.
I have been Building custom Polaris sleds since 2002, this year I purchased 3 new Pros, This will be the last time I support Polaris or any of its dealers.
I have had it up to my ears with Polaris doing R&D being at the cost of its customers.
Polaris is building machine's that travel at speeds close to 100 MPH with weak and faulty control systems, this is not safe for anyone.
I did not fuss about the drive shaft issue but a rider can die if an A- arm fails at high speed.
End of Complaint. I am taking this to Polaris and every forum I can sign up for.

I can't see how they could claim a rear tube came apart from a hit. While in reverse maybe? ha. Not much glue visible there. You got a right to be PO'd. Those things are $360 up here in Canada!

I took a good arm off and when tipped up water came out of some holes at the bulkhead end by the welds. Possibly this water that is getting in is affecting the glue either by rust or freeze/thaw cycles?

I got warranty on a shock and arm.