Now that the detour has been fixed. LOL
Dan's probably in his office LHAO (laughing his A off).
850 gone down already??
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Now that the detour has been fixed. LOL
Dan's probably in his office LHAO (laughing his A off).
So it looks like they’ve got 2 major issues fixed. Bearing and sealant. Two left. The runability issues(fouled plugs, bog, hot start) and the cylinder wall finish. Those two are most likely related too. I’d suspect if the cylinders aren’t sealing well then the new tune won’t fix it. Also it’s odd that the new tune has made some sleds run worse. Mystery issues like this, with no easy universal fix, scare me away from purchase.
I notice the changes to the 850 are buried deep, but that figures. So far I'm not seeing a disaster on the '19 850s, just a number of failures that could have been avoided. Based on that and the improvements for '20, I'd consider an 850 if I were buying. The cylinder finish is the biggest remaining reservation I'd have; I suspect they'll improve it for 2020, but through small changes in the bore-hone-finish process rather than something major. My biggest concern would be that they keep turning out motors with a cylinder finish like the one Dan shared, but I still wonder if that was an early production model where they were still getting the tooling sorted out. It would be nice to see a few more examples. Other than the question of the cylinder finish, I'd say the 850 is looking pretty good for '20.
Are you nuts! The 2019's run ice cold already.
Or you could just buy the pro-rmk that already comes standard with a bulkhead cooler and get an SKS
Have an SKS, runs way too cool for my liking,.. maybe a bypass on the bulkhead cooler for next season.
Or you could just buy the pro-rmk that already comes standard with a bulkhead cooler and get an SKS
When it comes in a 163 or 174 I will...
Edit: Wow, make one comment and people go ape***t....sensitive much there cupcake????
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They specifically mention the hot start/mapping issues as fixes for 2020 as well. The cylinder finish...doesn't seem to be presenting any issues, so not sure if there's anything to fix. I think the very public disclosure of the fixes in itself shows some real commitment to the program.
I don't think there's a huge mystery why the map works better on some sleds than others. Every set of injectors and every motor is slightly different. Also...there is probably some mis-diagnosis cases going on to, where the running issue is from something more rudimentary than the map (plugs, fuel system, etc). Further to that ....it's an age old phenomenon that some sleds have always ran better than others (all manufacturers) even when everything is supposed to be "the same."
They “mention” it but the new map is not fixing some sleds and making other sleds run worse. Which maybe gets us to the cylinder finish. If the finish is so rough that it’s eating rings and sleds are leaking down past 5% then no map will fix that. Or it’s something else. That’s a mystery lol.
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We have rectified the fouling/starting issues we’ve come across on a few machines by replacing injectors and/or the remap depending on the machine. Also seen a couple issues this year with NGK plugs. I don’t think there’s a big mystery, just easy to mis-diagnose when there could be 2 things going on at the same time. Had some issues yes, but this point in the season, we don’t have an 850 out there that’s not running well (that I’m aware of). And no one was without their sled for more than a week +/-.
And they seem to get stronger...not weaker as the miles stack up....that shouldn’t jive with a cylinder finish problem. Like I always say...and you can see it in all of these threads... the people with the most Polaris problems are those that don’t ride 1
And they seem to get stronger...not weaker as the miles stack up....that shouldn’t jive with a cylinder finish problem. Like I always say...and you can see it in all of these threads... the people with the most Polaris problems are those that don’t ride 1
That's funny, I do not have any Polaris problems since I changed brands... I had LOTs of problems while I owned them...
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Time to come up with some new material
Have you approached Arctic Cat or Skidoo about a sponsorship? As much time and effort as you spend on here trying to trash Polaris it's pretty pointless unless you are getting paid. You sound like a broken record. Otherwise,we are all sorry Polaris broke your heart so badly that you haven't been able to move on since. How many years has it been? 6?
Usually less than a post a day for you oversensitive Polaris types, clearly, too much more of the truth and you get you panties all wadded up. Nice try at the witty retort but you should just stick with your day job.
I also tire of the mantra regarding how great they are even though the poll listing the dead ones ticks up almost daily...
My last polaris was a new 2016 which made three in a row. So it has only been a couple of years... if you must know.
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...and you realize it is going both ways right? I keep telling true stories, you keep trying desperately to defend your brands honor.... tiresome it is...
