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[thefullmonte]

A little off topic, but many people confuse a rich or lean condition to the amount of oil. Whether it is a carburetor jet or a fuel injector you can only flow X amount of liquid. If more of that liquid is oil, then there is less fuel to be burned. This is actually lean . There is more lubrication available from the added oil, however it can cause the motor to run hot from the lack of fuel.

And I agree that I don't think you would need more than a pint to a full tank.

 

[PooSlinger]

A little off topic, but many people confuse a rich or lean condition to the amount of oil. Whether it is a carburetor jet or a fuel injector you can only flow X amount of liquid. If more of that liquid is oil, then there is less fuel to be burned. This is actually lean . There is more lubrication available from the added oil, however it can cause the motor to run hot from the lack of fuel.

And I agree that I don't think you would need more than a pint to a full tank.

Right. Extra oil in the tank may give you a little more protection, but it's still going to burn as if you were running lean. I'm anxious to hear if these guys feeling flat spots and stumbles still feel them after a couple tanks of pure petro.

 

[Kraven]

A little off topic, but many people confuse a rich or lean condition to the amount of oil. Whether it is a carburetor jet or a fuel injector you can only flow X amount of liquid. If more of that liquid is oil, then there is less fuel to be burned. This is actually lean . There is more lubrication available from the added oil, however it can cause the motor to run hot from the lack of fuel.

And I agree that I don't think you would need more than a pint to a full tank.

Monte,

First of all, I agree with your post 100%

Consider this, and correct me if I'm wrong here:

So if I were to run 1 pint of oil in 11.5 gallons of fuel that's 92:1 (gas/oil ratio)or slightly over 1% That's like going from a 500 main jet to a 495 main jet.

I can't see 1% leaner on the fuel mixture causing a problem (unless of course you're already on the ragged edge)

Even for the guys running a quart of oil per 11.5 gallons of fuel, that's 2 %. That's like going from a 500 main jet to a 490 main jet. Once again, I can't see that causing a problem, as far as leaning down the fuel, unless of course, you're almost there to start with.


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[thefullmonte]

Oh there you go making everyone's head hurt again. Nice work! I didn't think to look at it that way. Surprising the addition of that amount of oil is effecting how some of these run to such a degree.
In Mags thread it looks like Polaris is asking for 1 Liter of Poo Blue which would be about 44:1 which seems like quite a bit when you consider the oil pump is doing about that much too? Maybe coming out to about 24:1 overall? I suppose that much oil of today's standard could easily foul plugs. Especially if you are using something designed to be mixed at 50:1.
Interesting, I'm curious of others thoughts as well.

 

[Kraven]

Headaches

Oh there you go making everyone's head hurt again. Nice work! I didn't think to look at it that way. Surprising the addition of that amount of oil is effecting how some of these run to such a degree.
In Mags thread it looks like Polaris is asking for 1 Liter of Poo Blue which would be about 44:1 which seems like quite a bit when you consider the oil pump is doing about that much too? Maybe coming out to about 24:1 overall? I suppose that much oil of today's standard could easily foul plugs. Especially if you are using something designed to be mixed at 50:1.
Interesting, I'm curious of others thoughts as well.

Sorry 'bout that!

 

[nitrousxc]

The problem isn't so much the volume of fuel that the oil takes up. It's the excessive oil doesn't resist detonation very well. You have to look at it like you're replacing the fuel with something that doesn't burn very well, doesn't make any power, and that takes away the octane rating of the fuel you're running.

 

[CHARIOT OF DOOM]

a quart of oil sounds excessive, i've never done more than a pint. all polaris oils do not mix together properlly. it is okay to run blue in your gas tank and gold in your oil tank for the fact that the oils do not meet each other until the engine where it is burned. if you mix blue oil with gold oil in your oil tank then the molecules are likely to ball up (synthetic mixing with non synthetic) and this will lead to a lean issue followed by a burn down. if you guys are a looking for a good oil to run, then i would suggest redline or blue marble, polaris gold oil or gold plus oil are some of the worst oils on the market.

i would suggest redline also ran it since day one never had any problems, 65 bucks a gallon from my dealer but if you buy online you can get it for 35

 

[OnlyPolaris]

i put a quart of oil in with my tank of gas as it says in the sheet polaris gave me. i have been running the sled out on the driveway for 15 minutes at a time. once the sled reaches full temp i vary the rpm's. i then shut the sled down and let it cool off. i do this once a day.