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x2 I'm already pissed at this @#!$rmk900 watching this might put me over the top.
Funny that no one really cares it is bs.... nothing like emotion getting in the way of a rational decision...
Oh wait... CBS is in on it too...
Obama took my gun away yesterday... he told me to go out in the sandbox and play, all is going to be ok...
there is nothing that would indicate otherwise... now what?
sorry but your not near as good as O'Ruffy in the hegelian dialect.
there is nothing that would indicate otherwise... now what?
sorry but your not near as good as O'Ruffy in the hegelian dialect.
You know.. you are going to have to explain what you mean by hegelian dialect. I think you are using the term incorrectly...
Or are you just using it as another means of saying commi talk?This aint what im puttin down..
You know.. you are going to have to explain what you mean by hegelian dialect. I think you are using the term incorrectly...
This aint what im puttin down..
yes it is... not all the time but most of the time i guess!
The Hegelian dialectical formula: A (thesis) versus B (anti-thesis) equals C (synthesis)
Quotes that validate the ACL thesis that communitarians IS the synthesis in the Hegelian dialectic:
"People are living in a snarled-up subset of Marx's thinking, and do not know it. They twist logic to get to conclusions that will suit the current prejudices. They garnish it with a little Christianity or mysticism or whatever, though these play no important part in their world outlook." TRUTH OVERLOOKED: THE LEGACY OF LIST by Gwydion M. Williams (also available via Cal State LA-POLS 426 online reading list.)
"The Socialist Alliance programme is the foundation upon which everything else is built, including in time our exact organisational forms and constantly shifting tactics. The programme links our continuous and what should be all-encompassing agitational work with our ultimate aim of a communitarian, or communist, system. Our programme thus establishes the basis for agreed action and is the lodestar, the point of reference, around which the voluntary unity of the Socialist Alliance is built and concretised. Put another way, the programme represents the dialectical unity between theory and practice." [emphasis added] Posted by Weekly Worker 368, January 25 2001. See also: "The transition to the communitarian system" in the same issue of the American Communist Party's Weekly Worker.
"The market economics of the Right and the government bureaucracies of the Left have weakened society's connectedness. They have not been effective forums for collective action. For Right-wing politics, this is not much of an issue. It has always believed in the supremacy of individual freedom and individual action. For the Left, however, it is a huge problem.
"The old ideologies positioned politics as a struggle for ownership, the historic battle between socialism and capitalism. The Third Way, by contrast, sees politics as an exercise in communitarianism: rebuilding the relationships and social capital between people. It aims to put the social back into social justice. This is an important strategy for combating individualism and generating a sense of collective responsibility in society."
Australian Fabian Society, "Re-inventing Collectivism: The new Social Democracy" by Mark Latham, Member for Werriwa Third Way Conference, Centre for Applied Economic Research, University of New South Wales, Sydney, 12 July 2001
"In a passage that is notable for its vagueness, Azevedo says that the CEBs should be the basis for a new communitarianism that rejects the two "bankrupt" models and systems "that are now polarizing the world," capitalism and Marxist socialism. This communitarianism is to be "a dialectical synthesis, a new creation, superimposing itself on thesis and antithesis rather than retrieving them." The passage illustrates the controversy in Latin American Catholicism between those who continue to endorse the "third-position-ism" (tercerismo) of Catholic social teaching and those (including all liberation theologians that I know of) who believe that only socialism can be in accord with Christian values." Theology Today-Basic Ecclesial Communities in Brazil: The Challenge of a New Way of Being Church By Marcello deC. Azevedo, S.J.Washington, D.C., Georgetown University Press, 1987. 304 Pp.
While the Marxist-communitarian argument has not provided a shred of evidence to prove their utopian vision, and their synthesis does not match their own projected conclusions of world justice, we are convinced their argument does in fact substantiate our conclusion, that the entire philosophical dialectical argument is nothing but a brilliant ruse. We used to call it "a cheap parlor trick" until a responder to this page wondered how we could call it "cheap" when it's been so successful. And he was right. The dialectical arguments for human rights, social equity, and world peace and justice are a perfectly designed diversion in the defeated British Empire's Hegelian-Fabian-Metaphysical-Theosophical Monopoly game. It's the most successful con job in the history of the modern world. (For a well presented Christian overview of the con, see American Babylon: Part Five-the Triumph of the Merchants by Peter Goodgame.)
its basically based on no absolutes. do you not put forth an anti-thesis to just about every thesis?
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video.aol.com/video-detail/muslims-religion-of-peace-demonstration/1563114572 - 71k -
I don't know if this video I posted is for real or not. I really don't. I hope it isn't. I also don't know if Obama is really a natural born citizen. I hope he isn't actually and can eventually be proven.
What I don't understand is why Liberals defend this sort of thing if it indeed is true. Oh, maybe it is because Libs think EVERYONE on the face of this earth have rights guaranteed by the constitution of the United States.........
What I don't understand is why Liberals defend this sort of thing if it indeed is true. Oh, maybe it is because Libs think EVERYONE on the face of this earth have rights guaranteed by the constitution of the United States.........
I don't know if this video I posted is for real or not. I really don't. I hope it isn't. I also don't know if Obama is really a natural born citizen. I hope he isn't actually and can eventually be proven.
What I don't understand is why Liberals defend this sort of thing if it indeed is true. Oh, maybe it is because Libs think EVERYONE on the face of this earth have rights guaranteed by the constitution of the United States.........
It could also be what the conservative media tells you liberals believe in... just a thought...
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ahhhh yes....back to the meat of your arguments....we are sheeple....of course....of course.
ahhhh yes....back to the meat of your arguments....we are all sheeple....of course....of course.
why did I just get in the mood for some lamb.... baaahhhh = tasty!
fixed it for you too....
Funny That You Say This
It could also be what the conservative media tells you liberals believe in... just a thought...[/QUOTE]
Wasn't it the Liberal Media, that attacked Sarah Palin unadulterated? Seems to me that we are talking about, CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, MSNBC, and CNN, just to start the list of Liberal Media sources. just a thought.....
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Ya know what is so ironic....you call all us conservatives sheeple, but the media in general is so left it is unbelievable. Conservative sources are mainly Fox News, Rush, and Savage. You think we are brain washed by these sources...it kills me. When I argue with a liberal, they have no real substance to back it up (you do throw a good argument out, but again no substance)....just propaganda and regurgitated liberal rhetoric. HMMMM the media is mostly left...where do most of the sheeple lie? Again another common sense question for ya ruffy. I don't think you can answer that straight up....you will go on for 2 paragraphs trying to confuse people....but I see through it!
...always have! Now where is my rack of lamb....yummy.Oh wait...another unbelievable point from Puff loaded full of??????? what is it you ask? wait hold on!!!!! yes it is!!!!!!....COMMON SENSE AND LOGIC:
....lets hear more of your attempt to confuse, twist, and spin ruffy ruff. My rack of lamb is smelling good on the BARBY. Yummy
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Here Ruffy, Come on boy. Speak!
NPR? You kidding me? I never thought Car Talk was liberal, nor jazz... Learn something new everyday?
I think you need to spend more then the 10 minutes it took you to inform you opinions on NPR a couple of years ago... Funny, you probably heard one segment, disagreed with it, and haven't heard it since. I think they are pretty good, probably the best out there, mostly because they get into more technical analysis of issues then the rest.
They also do some fricken excellent programming.....
I don't know... maybe WPR is better then what you have.... You sure you are listening to NPR and not the state version?
You think the above is as far right as the media is left? That is fricken scary... Where does that put Ed Shultz?
The main media might be a little to the left, but not as far as Rush would have you think. Next thing you are going to tell me is that the majority of people are liberals or conservatives.. Where did the moderates go? Did they get eaten?WRT to Rush, there is a difference between showing only one side of the story, and manipulating facts around to create the other side of a story...
Obviously the above doesn't hold true to the global warming bs.... as both sides are equally retarded...
Looking at your arguments, it does seem true.. The amount of emotion that is used, the use of labeling... Rush wouldn't have anything to say if he was limited to talking without those tools...
Seems like all most of conservative media tries to do is inflame and enrage people... and they will do a lot to try and achieve that goal, even though the purpose of that goal is muddled..
So because the medial attacked Palin, that makes them liberal?
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Amazing. I haven't seen one mention of the USA PATRIOT Act. Everyone forgot about this? "Hands are tied..." ? Funny- they've found plenty of ways to use those provisions against comon folk, but they can't seem to deal with a group like this? Quite amazing. Probably need to write some more laws that take away even more of your liberties, I guess.
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Wow, I didnt see any in MT....go figure. "they are protected by the US Constitution". We are too, which means no one can take our guns from us. Good, glad that is solved.
Thinking people are going to start taking matters into their own hands pretty soon. If ya know what I mean....wink, wink.
Thinking people are going to start taking matters into their own hands pretty soon. If ya know what I mean....wink, wink.
