3" snowbike track
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One thing for certain is a three inch will be harder on chains. In the wet heavy snow of the last few days we have seen more chain stretch than all year combined.
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Did you see my above post ? Camso track will be available for what in 2018 ? Not the standard yeti and not a 3" Camso period. It will be a 2.5 Camso on the SS 129 kit for 2018 in the narrow width. 120 will be a hawk track in narrow width. Yeti has more than one 3" track on the snow for testing purposes, they have had these 3" tracks for 3 years but Camso cannot actually build them unless someone coughs up 500,000USD. The machine that makes the 3" track must inject the rubber from the centre and nothing less than a 151 circumference will physically fit on the machine hence the big cost involved. Yeti may be keeping 3 out of the 13 for sale for themselves.
Here is a couple pics of a 3" Yeti
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Here is a couple pics of a 3" Yeti
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simbatheking
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You have some contacts summit boy. I have been trying to find a review on a 3 inch track with no luck. why did they say it did not work well?
The 3" paddle offered here will be a Challenger. It needs to be the right stiffness as some bikes will have a hard time pulling too stiff of a track. Its going to come down to snow condition, bike, and gearing. I have been told it works excellent in the powder on a strong 450. In my opinion gearing and transmission, and snow will be the deciding factor to when its best used etc. 10 tracks will sell fast im sure. Will more be offered ? Id have to find out. Cheers
The size of the bike will only be part of the concern of which track to use .
They did well by offering two completely different tracks . Those that purchase which ever one need to understand how extremely different they are from each other .
These two tracks can not even be compared to each other .
If they are using the newer version Hawk track with fiber added your gonna need a pretty stout bike also even if it comes 10 wide . The lugs don't give
They did well by offering two completely different tracks . Those that purchase which ever one need to understand how extremely different they are from each other .
These two tracks can not even be compared to each other .
If they are using the newer version Hawk track with fiber added your gonna need a pretty stout bike also even if it comes 10 wide . The lugs don't give
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simbatheking
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Ya I spoke w Jamie today and he said he was thinking 1350$/track and they were custom built by camso for testing. I'm cheap so I'm gonna splice a track but if u have the cash for a proper track those seem like the real deal
If the 3" was a winner these guys would be incorporating it into the kit. I can see where the load could be too much, also must work against trail manners. Which unfortunately has been a big driver in snowbike r and d.
How could the load be too much?! If it is loading it is gripping. I imagine the difference in trail manners between a contoured 3 and 2.5 would be minimal. Being cost prohibitive to the manufacturers is the only reason it makes sense to me why we haven't seen one yet.
Finished a 129x 12.4 peak 2.5" track today! Going on a yeti should be pretty sweet
3" Camoplast Tracks
Here are the 3” tracks that YETI SNOW MX is selling off.
They are all brand new, Challenger X3 tracks. There are some used ones too.
These tracks are in (2) different widths, 12.5” wide which will fit all YETI and TS models and 10.5” width. You can run a 10.5” wide track on all kits too.
These tracks were professionally built by CAMSO special for us to test. They will work on your snowbike just fine, we have had no issues. They come with no warranty as they are prototypes.
Some of these tracks are punched and clipped at 6” rail stance and some at the standard 10”.
We are selling them for $1350 Canadian funds.
*NOTE: You will need a 3.0 pitch driver to run these tracks, AVID can make you those and may have what you need in stock.
No better way to figure out if you like the 3” track than to try one.
Here is the list of what we have to sell off remaining:
(Call C3 at 780 419 2040 for more info and to purchase, ask for Dean or Jamie)
1) 10.5/137 Length/10" Standard
2)12.5/120 Length/6"
3)12.5/137 Length/6"
4)12.5/129 Length/6"
5)12.5/120 Length/10" Standard
6)12.5/137 Length/10"
Here are the 3” tracks that YETI SNOW MX is selling off.
They are all brand new, Challenger X3 tracks. There are some used ones too.
These tracks are in (2) different widths, 12.5” wide which will fit all YETI and TS models and 10.5” width. You can run a 10.5” wide track on all kits too.
These tracks were professionally built by CAMSO special for us to test. They will work on your snowbike just fine, we have had no issues. They come with no warranty as they are prototypes.
Some of these tracks are punched and clipped at 6” rail stance and some at the standard 10”.
We are selling them for $1350 Canadian funds.
*NOTE: You will need a 3.0 pitch driver to run these tracks, AVID can make you those and may have what you need in stock.
No better way to figure out if you like the 3” track than to try one.
Here is the list of what we have to sell off remaining:
(Call C3 at 780 419 2040 for more info and to purchase, ask for Dean or Jamie)
1) 10.5/137 Length/10" Standard
2)12.5/120 Length/6"
3)12.5/137 Length/6"
4)12.5/129 Length/6"
5)12.5/120 Length/10" Standard
6)12.5/137 Length/10"
Sweet! Definitely going to look into this!
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simbatheking
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I wonder if you could use the old yeti drivers that were slightly bigger for a 3" pitch track. The current track has about 1" clearance so as long as u taper the lugs you shouldn't need more clearance. 2.87 pitch to 3" pitch is not much difference and seeing as the old drivers were slightly bigger I would think it'd work
Guys on sleds have been running 3" tracks on 2.86 drivers for years. I would recommend switching though as it east some HP with all the slippage
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simbatheking
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Looks like camso uses a flexco staple fastener. I might go that rout since I'm sure they considered all options.
I see that now that I clicked the picture.
Just down the road from me is one of the largest belting manufacturers anywhere. I had a few talks with them and was pretty much assured that any splice will survive with the kind of use and HP we see. Any of the flexco fasteners will work, mechanically fastening like I do works, and failure is very unlikely.
Like I said earlier this has been done on snowmobiles for over 20 years, heck we used to cut down to 114" when those tracks were no longer available back in the 90s. You would be surprised the amount of torture a splice can take, if you are doing a flexco system be sure to carry an extra pin
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simbatheking
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the ultimate snowbike track
so, after much thought about all the different tracks, i said to myself, self, how is the conquer track and gen 4 track so much lighter? its single ply for one, and it must be thinner. I ported my yeti track, t3, and x3 tracks one hole each for a track sample. (the t3 track was already shot). all the tracks had one thinner layer of nylon towards the outside and another thicker layer towards the drive side. the t3 and x3 were about .25" and i think the yeti was slightly thinner. i did bend tests with my thumb in the direction or normal bend around the driver and the yeti track was noticeably easier to bend, x3 was second easiest and t3 close third. the next thing i did was used a 90 degree die grinder with a cookie cutter sander and sanded the t3 and x3 samples on the lug/outter side until i hit the first thinner layer of nylon chords. they were much easier to bend and slightly easier to bend than the yeti sample. i continued to sand more of the x3 sample until i got just past the outter layer of chords and it was .15" thick. there is a thin layer of rubber before you hit the inner/larger layer of belting, so i dont want to go past the top layer of belting or ill expose the bottom layer of belting. once i get the damaged x3 track i have coming i plan to thin it down to .15". this will reduce weight and parasitic loss and slightly increase the exposed lug height. i think this is a better option than porting. i did this to one row on a nfg track and heavilly ported another row, and the thinner row was still easier to bend. id post pics of all this, but this POS website decided to limit my number of pics to 5 or so for basic members now, so i had to delete all my build pics of my carb turbo build that showed pple everything they needed to know for how to build a carb xp-t.
so, after much thought about all the different tracks, i said to myself, self, how is the conquer track and gen 4 track so much lighter? its single ply for one, and it must be thinner. I ported my yeti track, t3, and x3 tracks one hole each for a track sample. (the t3 track was already shot). all the tracks had one thinner layer of nylon towards the outside and another thicker layer towards the drive side. the t3 and x3 were about .25" and i think the yeti was slightly thinner. i did bend tests with my thumb in the direction or normal bend around the driver and the yeti track was noticeably easier to bend, x3 was second easiest and t3 close third. the next thing i did was used a 90 degree die grinder with a cookie cutter sander and sanded the t3 and x3 samples on the lug/outter side until i hit the first thinner layer of nylon chords. they were much easier to bend and slightly easier to bend than the yeti sample. i continued to sand more of the x3 sample until i got just past the outter layer of chords and it was .15" thick. there is a thin layer of rubber before you hit the inner/larger layer of belting, so i dont want to go past the top layer of belting or ill expose the bottom layer of belting. once i get the damaged x3 track i have coming i plan to thin it down to .15". this will reduce weight and parasitic loss and slightly increase the exposed lug height. i think this is a better option than porting. i did this to one row on a nfg track and heavilly ported another row, and the thinner row was still easier to bend. id post pics of all this, but this POS website decided to limit my number of pics to 5 or so for basic members now, so i had to delete all my build pics of my carb turbo build that showed pple everything they needed to know for how to build a carb xp-t.
