2026 Ski-Doo REVEAL

[Sheetmetalfab]

I adjust my suspension setting for snow conditions pretty frequently. It takes about 30 seconds to go from minimum preload to max preload no matter how iced up everything is........ I guarantee its not near as easy with a coil spring.

I think the torsion spring suspension being "falling rate" makes it so you need to adjust the springs for mountain conditions.

The coil spring skid is "rising rate" so setting for rider weight and adjusting clickers works much better.

I just think there's been 18 years too many torsion spring apologists talking from a POV of purchase justification.

It's ok to accept that a mountain skid can work well as rising rate and still prefer a falling rate on the trail......

 

[caper11]

I think the torsion spring suspension being "falling rate" makes it so you need to adjust the springs for mountain conditions.

The coil spring skid is "rising rate" so setting for rider weight and adjusting clickers works much better.

I just think there's been 18 years too many torsion spring apologists talking from a POV of purchase justification.

It's ok to accept that a mountain skid can work well as rising rate and still prefer a falling rate on the trail......

Nope, I just listen to my shock guy who is the suspension technician for the BRP race teams.
The integral clickers are pretty slick to use.

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

Nope, I just listen to my shock guy who is the suspension technician for the BRP race teams.
The integral clickers are pretty slick to use.

He definitely would know what works for the Doo.

 

[Blu Du]

will the coil overs be smoother on the whooped out single track trails?

 

[caper11]

will the coil overs be smoother on the whooped out single track trails?

In my experience, no, I have tried torsion deletes on doos suspension and its a rougher, harsher ride, but it was lighter. The recent snowest test backs that comparison up between brands, the doo on the trail rode better, and still worked good in the hills.
I don’t like the factory shock calibration, I think it’s too soft, and it doesn’t compensate for the extra weight of jerry cans and tunnel bags at the back of the tunnel.
The X is a very interesting package to me, kinda more then the expert at the moment, but my 2023 has been an excellent sled.

 

[pliskie6]

It's not clear to me whether the new buddy tracking feature will work without cell service for Doo riders who do not have the new 10.25 screen but have the BRP app. In other words, if one rider has the new 10.25 gauge, can he see all his buddies who do not have that gauge but have the Doo app on their cell phones, in areas without cell service.

If it works anything like the 7S, you'll be able to see the people running the app on their cell phones only when in cell coverage, once they lose cell coverage they will disappear. But how easy will it be for the cell phone app users to join a group using the 10.25"? I know joining a group on the cell phone was a painful process. I just wish Doo would scrap their design and go with Garmin or someone that has experience. I mean Polaris came out with the 7S in 2021 which is 5 seasons ago and nailed it from day one. Doo has been trying pretty much since with very little progress. I mean come on you come out with a integrated GPS module that has limited detail and only offers bread crumbs that don't even work. If you want detail and create points of interest, etc, you have to plug in your phone which always loses connection. Having two systems just shows their incompetence. They need to go back to the drawing board and create a web-based system like Polaris where you can log into Ridecommand on your computer, tablet or phone, look at maps, create routes or make points of interest and everything gets loaded automatically to the 7S. Until then everyone will keep saying give it time, they will come out with improvements.... how many years is enough? Don't release it until its right and stop making a money grab year after year for something that is junk.

 

[steenso]

Kinda like the Polaris clutch

 

[NHRoadking]

Kinda like the Polaris clutch

 

[pliskie6]

Kinda like the Skidoo chaincase

 

[BeartoothBaron]

Have airbags really given people a false sense of security or is that unsubstantiated anecdotal evidence?

That would mean the amount of riders involved in avalanches has significantly increased since airbags have become common place. I haven't seen the American Avalanche Institute or any other organization report on that but I could definitely be missing it.

Nobody is saying leave your shovel beacon and probe at home or stop using your head. But the airbag does provide another layer of potential life saving technology.

How is group ride any different? Like you said, using your head is most important but who wouldn't want another level of safety?

Not only safety but it also makes life convenient. If you can get to you stuck buddy in less time, that's time you can use to continue riding.

I'm not sure what the statistics would tell you - if anything. Skimming through this season's avalanche accidents reveals four cases where an airbag was worn but not deployed, and at least one where it wouldn't have helped (trauma) - out of 12 fatalities so far. I definitely believe there's a mentality in some people that says "I've got a beacon, I've got an airbag, and I'm riding in a group, so I don't have to worry about avalanches." That's dispelled pretty quickly if you take an avy course, but how many riders do?

Airbags may well save enough people to offset the "my gear will save me" fallacy, but we still lose people with airbags who made questionable choices. It's a fine point because airbags, buddy tracking, etc. are all good tools - it's just things like airbags often can't compensate for bad judgment (even assuming they're deployed). The danger is when those tools become crutches. They can wipe out a healthy sense of vulnerability and enable bad habits. Obviously that's not inevitable - just something to guard against.

 

[revrider07]

I have still used my rhino gps everyday because I’m not 100% trusting in any gauge. Riding solo in the back country is a risk we all take at certain times. Tree wells, sleds flipping over, creeks, and small snow slides can kill you in 12 minutes or less. The people you ride with are most important tool you can have. Eyes on your friends will help make sure everyone comes home.

 

[kittykitty_900]

Kinda like the Skidoo chaincase

except skidoo fixed that, polaris is going on 3+ years later and they are sill failing