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2019

Also looking forward to the release. Hoping they ditch the 850 moniker and lay the smack down with an actual 900!!
 
Two weeks ago I went to the dealer and walked out with an '18 800 Axys for my wife - who immediately decided she wanted to leave it black with a black tunnel and do purple powder coating to all the raw aluminum. Then yesterday I saw the Alpha thing - damn they stole my wife's idea before we could make it to the powder coater! There are spies everywhere! Hahaha

FYI $11,450 for an Axys 800 155" 2.6 with E start, Durmas racing clutching set up and 3 year factory warranty. Could have been under 10 with no e start, no clutching, and 1 year warranty.

I have seen 155s for under $9,000. They will go down further after Monday.
 
A group of us was in West Yellowstone last week and saw a group of 5 Polaris with Prototype registration on them. Couldn’t see the body work or graphics because they had them wrapped in a body Camo net like the vehicle manufacturers. I do know that some dealers in the Midwest have ridden the 19 trails sleds with a new 800+ mill... not sure the exact displacement but was told it blows the doors of the current 800.... that’s all i got...


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Polaris has been toying with a bigger bore and factory turbo ideas for a while now. Trying to balance consumer demand with warranty and low price is tough. There is a market for these sleds, but there are many that still want "just" an 800. FYI, the big news in RMSHA for 2018 is the elimination of the 800 class and started a 900cc class. This was done with meeting with all the manufacturers so you would have to think there is something to this. Polaris has been dominating this class pretty much for years so Im sure they would protest if they didnt have something up their sleeve....
 
Wonder why all the best riders/racers are on polaris mountain sleds? It aint because of how hard the stock mills pull. I hope whatever it is that they have in the works makes it to the 600 (tech upgrades) and that it holds up to boost better than the current engine... Which holds up quite well to artificial atmosphere lol

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Not for long.
Sounds like they'll all be going alpha one cat now.........
nah... precision, predictability, stability, and lightweight are king in the techy terrain.

Power to weight ratios matter when you are trying to move up and down on a deep snow sidehill. Polaris has no issues in maneuverability with their chassis that require t-motion or monorails. They are not behind at all in this aspect of the sleds. They are behind in the horsepower game, yet still have the best power to weight ratio on a 2 stroke.

Lots of new, mid level mountain riders like the ease at which t-motion and alpha flop over. They quickly learn that its fairly difficult to control when the back end will wash or flop further than you want it to. Almost all of the pro ski doo guys run tmotion lockout of some form if they ride techy terrain, some even convert to vertical steering. Will we see something similar on the alpha? Already seeing reports of it turning people directions if they were ready to/wanted to or not... time will tell.

(* i have no seat time on a alpha, but love the innovation push and would like to try it so that I can understand how it really feels)
 
Funny something that makes riding easier is only good for novice riders? Heck all you hardcore expert riders must still be riding sleds from the 90's ;) I've found everyone on the internet is a expert tree rider until your 5 miles from the nearest trail...
 
Do you know who you're talking to?

@89sandman

Generally I agree with your statement that lots of guys are great riders on the forum and suddenly aren't so good when they are actually on a ride.

However, your comments seem to be directed at Phatty, which tells me you probably should have done a little research before making that comment. He's one of probably only about 2 dozen guys in the whole world with real legitimate lengthy footage documenting the fact that he is indeed a "hardcore expert tree rider".

Personally, I don't like him, he's a Ute fan, how could I? :face-icon-small-win:face-icon-small-win :face-icon-small-ton But he definitely isn't one who should have his "expert" credentials called into question.

And yes, there does exist such thing as something that can help a beginner, or at least make a beginner think he is being helped, while at the same time being something that experts don't want at all as they feel it inhibits their abilities. Lots of examples across lots of sports if you actually sit down and think about it.
 
I can't believe nothing has leaked out yet not even a crumb from Polaris maybe there taking the 2019 off and will just market the leftover 18s.
 
No kidding. I've ridden with Phatty.
Well, kind of. I've watched him ride and I've listened to him on the radio down in the deep dark holes in the creek bottoms where I don't go intentionally. LOL

Btw, in my opinion, though everyone gets used to the chassis they ride... Some chassis and ergonomics facilitate poor riding habits.
Polaris is such a capable chassis that you have to know how to ride well to keep up with it and do what it's capable of.
@89sandman

Generally I agree with your statement that lots of guys are great riders on the forum and suddenly aren't so good when they are actually on a ride.

However, your comments seem to be directed at Phatty, which tells me you probably should have done a little research before making that comment. He's one of probably only about 2 dozen guys in the whole world with real legitimate lengthy footage documenting the fact that he is indeed a "hardcore expert tree rider".

Personally, I don't like him, he's a Ute fan, how could I? :face-icon-small-win:face-icon-small-win :face-icon-small-ton But he definitely isn't one who should have his "expert" credentials called into question.

And yes, there does exist such thing as something that can help a beginner, or at least make a beginner think he is being helped, while at the same time being something that experts don't want at all as they feel it inhibits their abilities. Lots of examples across lots of sports if you actually sit down and think about it.
 
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We'll just see what comes out on Monday, and then we'll figure it out from there.

I'm sure Polaris will not lose their ranking.
 
Funny something that makes riding easier is only good for novice riders? Heck all you hardcore expert riders must still be riding sleds from the 90's ;) I've found everyone on the internet is a expert tree rider until your 5 miles from the nearest trail...

Shouldn't be funny. Just about all sports equipment work this way.
Does "everyone" include you?
 
Funny something that makes riding easier is only good for novice riders?

I think the point is that certain chassis setups and designs favor riding in mellow and moderate terrain. They make normal/average riding very fun and smooth. So for the average guy(hint, that's most people, per average) these things will make riding easier and it will work really good. But for some riders and styles this chassis setup heads away from what they want to do and results in making it HARDER to ride.

I personally will admit that the G4 is the easiest sled to cruise around and rip powder turns in( I would never own one though). Its like butter carving around having a blast. moderate angle sidehills, same thing. The thing is just flat smooth. So for the rider who does just that, the thing IS easier to ride and makes it a lot more fun.

When you get into steeper conditions, less then ideal snow etc the inability of it to set a hard edge makes it erradic and challanging to ride.

Ive rode sleds with the ez-ryde carve skids, the iceage pro-motion etc. This all holds true. for normal riding they are smooth and easy and fun. Get into the tight and nasty stuff in less then perfect snow and the tall rigid chassis of the axys is hands down the winner.

Look at pro level riders, the riding they do, and what they ride. It all points out just that.

Technical? - Axys
Alpine riding/jumping - G4
Mix - Cat (smallest market share so less samples)
 
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