2018 Timbersled
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I rode with a bunch of the guys from Timbersled on the new stuff in February and I can confirm that A LOT of the talk on this thread is wild speculation. As far as I can see, no one here really knows a whole lot about what's going on behind the scenes with Polaris/Timbersled and why/what they are developing.
Bottom line is that the new suspensions are awesome. The ski is 11.5 now which is a huge plus in my book. Track was narrowed to 11.5 for more track speed as well as handling as I understand it. Being from Utah where the snow is deep, I am suspicious of narrowing the track. Perhaps it's better but I am in the "more floation" camp rather than "track speed" camp right now.
These Timbersled guys are still developing this stuff in northern Idaho and it was a pleasure to meet and hang out with them for a few days. Great guys. If you don't really know what they are up to, you make yourself look a little foolish by writing statements that are nothing more than speculation. Don't get me wrong, speculation is great, just don't write it like it's a fact.
Bottom line is that the new suspensions are awesome. The ski is 11.5 now which is a huge plus in my book. Track was narrowed to 11.5 for more track speed as well as handling as I understand it. Being from Utah where the snow is deep, I am suspicious of narrowing the track. Perhaps it's better but I am in the "more floation" camp rather than "track speed" camp right now.
These Timbersled guys are still developing this stuff in northern Idaho and it was a pleasure to meet and hang out with them for a few days. Great guys. If you don't really know what they are up to, you make yourself look a little foolish by writing statements that are nothing more than speculation. Don't get me wrong, speculation is great, just don't write it like it's a fact.
When someone says a narrower track and steeper approach angle and will work better in the deep they simply need to sober up. Simply not the case and discredits their product in my opinion. All long time sled builders know this and been proven.
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What happened to the built in gas can holder.....grab your bungee straps
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Ya where does the gas can go now. AND does it come with one still, or do I need to sell my old kit without a can.
What happened to the built in gas can holder.....grab your bungee straps
[/QUOTE]Ya where does the gas can go now. AND does it come with one still, or do I need to sell my old kit without a can.
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Northwestguy
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Also, can you use your old TSS with the new ARO kit. I'd probably order the standard ST vs LE if i could use my old TSS.........?
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What happened to the built in gas can holder.....grab your bungee straps
Ya where does the gas can go now. AND does it come with one still, or do I need to sell my old kit without a can.[/QUOTE]
LOL , Does Polaris make a fuel can for their sleds ?
Keep you can / cans who do you think makes it any way ? We ran those cans back in the 90's
Were not building snowmobiles
I think the biggest reason you will see these working better is no that a steeper approach is necasarily better. But you take a small loss to overcome something for a larger gain. In the current trim (17 and older) yes, the approach is better, BUT, the paddles as they return around the drivers are actually pushing backwards for a second and trenching the setup in. You are comparing driveshaft location and attack angle on a sled, BUT on ALL snowmobile designs the centerline of the driveshaft is never below the belly pan.
Snow acts almost like a liquid in many senses and before we were sort of cavitating the front of the drive system. So although yes a steeper approach angle may be less ideal. given our packaging restrains, a slightly higher approach angle to eliminate this big drag will still net a far better result.
If your track speed on the throttle is 30 mph the paddle tips at the driver are moving at 60 because is rolling around a radius. the belt may be 30 but out at the paddle tip is accelerated, that snow is pulled downward and compressed . The higher axle will handle bumps better and the narrow track will get from edge to edge quicker butt it will not float better.Were not building snowmobiles
I think the biggest reason you will see these working better is no that a steeper approach is necasarily better. But you take a small loss to overcome something for a larger gain. In the current trim (17 and older) yes, the approach is better, BUT, the paddles as they return around the drivers are actually pushing backwards for a second and trenching the setup in. You are comparing driveshaft location and attack angle on a sled, BUT on ALL snowmobile designs the centerline of the driveshaft is never below the belly pan.
Snow acts almost like a liquid in many senses and before we were sort of cavitating the front of the drive system. So although yes a steeper approach angle may be less ideal. given our packaging restrains, a slightly higher approach angle to eliminate this big drag will still net a far better result.
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It's a Poo thing , they have been working with that philosophy on certain models for decades . Not sure what the obsession with the center open windows is even though they reduced them .
The manufacture that first started doing the big open windows has gotten away from them for a reason and none of the big manufactures does it to the short tracks .
Why do you think the Camso track gets such good reviews , it's not just the lug but the footprint .
Any bets on who will be the first to use staggered closed windows ?
I too ordered the blue le kit, what did the dealer tell you on colors? hoping the spindle, rails, arms are blue like the pics of the red and orange kits, pictured on the site, and in print on the net.
it bums me out that they (Polaris) do not treat these like sleds, showing ALL POSSIBLE COLORS COMBOS, AND ACCESSORIES AVAILABLE. no, they just show a few colors, and no accys AT ALL. here drop 6000 bucks, we will tell you what color it comes in, when you un-crate it. oh, and as far as accys go, you cant plan that until after the season starts. WTF? Ski
I wish I could continue reading this thread but I'm not premium, so I guess I'm out.
Hecho en china baby! Never know what you'll get till it hits the port
