We now move on to the stock builds:
Hulk and Thore
They both are stock 2017 Yamaha YZ450FX's. Once again we chose this platform for it's reliability and ease of use for people to jump on and ride easily, with out having to kick start a bike. Yamaha's once again proved to be the ultimate in reliability for this season. The electric start worked well and never let us down in the back country. We always carried a jump pack, but never used it. We did not have to do anything but change the oil!!!!
Hulk got fitted with a CMX BK129 and Thore was fitted with a Camso DTS 129.
Both bikes got all of the recomended RMS MX accessories:
ProMoto Billet: Screw in bar ends, Fit1 hand guards, Billet handle bar risers, and Adventure foot pegs with the F6 cleats.
( The bar risers will help get your body position into the correct placemnt by getting you up and back on the bike trying to counter act the weight of the kit on the back. The Fit1 hand guards with the full top clamp will keep your bars and risers straight when you hit a tree hard or your bike falls over int he parking lot. The screw in tapped bar ends will lock the bark busters to the bars and not let them move. I hate having to straighten out my bark busters when my bike falls over in the parking lot. With this system most of the time they will not move. The Adventure foot pegs are wider than the stock units and allow you to have the pegs under the center of your boots and not be pigeon toed because your heals are out further to avoid the added width of the kit. )
AME heated electric grips
( They are about the same diameter of stock grips so you do not get arm pump and the heating element is built into the grip so it will not turn on the bars. They are 7 way adjustable and have a single switch for ease of installation. )
Trail Tech temperature gauge
( these units are battery powered and go right into the side of the thermobob. No need for extra wiring. )
RMS MX custom front fork springs and valving
( The KYB forks in the Yamaha's are the best forks to use in the snow bike industry. We can custom wind springs for your application and you will be about 80% of perfect. We can also do custom snow bike valving to your forks and give you a front end has full adjustment levels on both compression and rebound to achieve the 100% perfiect front end matched to your rider weight, gear, and kit. We also build custom forks for you KTM guys struggling with 4CS, and AER. )
GYTR slip on exhaust
Yamaha GYTR electric fan
( The fan kit is so easy to install and helps on the warm days so you do not have to keep the eagle eye on temperatures when you are working it hard. )
Bullet Proof Designs radiator guards
( Their design both protect the radiators from being crushed in a tip over, but they keep the trees from poking through the fragile radiator fins. They also act like a large heat sink and do not collect the amount of ice on the front of the radiators like the stock plastic fins. )
RMS MX custom intake
( Our intake sits below the air box cover and stays quiet much like the stock intake setup, but it does not clog up with snow.
Seat Concepts seat
( We have the stock Yamaha seat pan recovered and re-foamed to give you a plusher seat and the ability to hold you in place. We did try the Acerbis replacement seat on the Hulk this season and found it to be to slick and it did not hold you in the correct position like the Seat Concepts unit did. )
ThermoBob thermostat
( Anytime the snow is deep enough to spray up on the engine it is trying to cool the engine temperatures down to a level that is colder than what a bike should run. In a test with a 1/2 mi. loop in 8" of fresh powder a bike with no thermostat would only get above 180deg. if it sat and idled for 30 min. and would run through the snow at 90deg. That is way to cold for a 4stroke. With a ThermoBob installed it would get to 180 in 10 min. of idling and run through the snow at 115deg. When the engine jacket was installed with the ThermoBob the bike would stay at 180deg. the entire time. Thermostats and engine blankets are a must for bikes in snow. )
PST engine jacket
( After full testing we are very happy with the results these units give us. They are easy to use and can be rolled down when the temperatures get warmer. and even removed all together for your April and May riding. )
Earth X battery
( We have been selling this battery for 4 seasons now and the reliability of it and its ability to start the bikes in sub zero temperatures is outstanding!! )
Hulk review:
We used a 2016 CMX BK 129 for the kit on the hulk, but went through it completely and updating much of it to 2017 specs. First was pulling the drive shafts and sending them back to CMX to have them machined and replace the drive bearings on them. Then we replaced the 2016 MaxTrak with the new 2017 MaxTrak II, and updated the belt drive with the reverse idler setup and cover to allow more room for your heal on the belt side. We also added the new rear bumper for the tail of the tunnel, along with the RotoPak gas can mount and can. We also got rid of the twin ski front end and installed a Yeti front spindle and ski. It is now a 2017 except for the the shocks.
The things that make CMX great only got better with the new track. The flotation is awesome, the ability to have fun with the bike is like no other and is still a standout!!! The 129 transfers even more power to the snow than the 120, and is even more playful with the throttle. The MaxTrak II is a big improvement over the MaxTrak. It bites the hard pack even better and has all the flotation you could want. We love having the ability to pick the front ski off the snow with the throttle and create the weight transfer to the rear skid. It can be so much "snow bike fun"!!! The other side of the coin is that: you have to ride it like a dirt bike. If you are tired when you come up to a steep up hill and do not stand up on the pegs, the front end will pull up and loop out making you crash. If you are on your game and standing on the foot pegs, riding it like a dirt bike, it is very controllable on steep up hills. This gets even worse on big powered machines. We took this system off the Hulk and put it on the Ferrari race bike that put out 30 more HP than the Hulk. By the time we adjusted the suspension to control the wheelie to some degree, it was so stiff, it would buck you off in the woops. So the system went back on the stock powered machine and life was good again.
The reliability of the system was great all season. We even hit a 12" steel post with this kit and destroyed the side of it. After a little wait on parts we were able to put it all back together with no problems. The bolt together design of the system makes repairs super easy!!!!
The only design flaw of this system is that the brake is on the jack shaft. We had a belt get loose because we had not done the long bolt update to the belt tension-er and it loosened up on a hard full throttle bounce and stripped the teeth off the the belt. No problem, we carry a spare. We installed the spare that we had zip tied to the frame of the system. It possibly was kinked to tightly in storage an failed in 1mi. We then had to tow the bike back. With no belt, we had no brakes. We had to drop the bike on steep down hills and we even had a pile up with the tow bike because we couldn't stop. We would have been better riding back to camp to get another belt.
So many riders this season had great compliments on the ski pressure and how playful it was compared to there Timbersleds that had some ski push in the powder. The ski pressure can be stuck like glue when landing into a technical turn, then on the gas and pulls away with light pressure. It is a great combination of bite and maneuverability. With the system using the Yeti front end and ski, it has excellent manners on and off the trails. The CMX BK still feels like it has more suspension than a Timbersled even though it does not use a third shock. The feel of this suspension with a rubber bushing solid strut rod is amazing. We love the CMX BK for the "I want something better than a Timbersled but don't want to spend maga bucks for it." The CMX BK was $7295 for the 2017 season.
Thor Review:
Stock 2017 Camso DTS 129.
We saw that the DTS was UGLY!!! Our custom RMS MX graphics sure helped its curb appeal.
The riders this season felt that the value of this system put it in line with the Timbersled kits for the performance verses the money spent.
The front ski takes some getting use to, but will preform quite similar to a Timbersled ski. It has some push and ill manners compared to the Yeti ski. The rear suspension in the system leaves a lot on the table. There is not much spring adjustment, and no adjustable dampening.
The cargo area is built in and you do not need to buy anything but two ratchet straps to hold in the gas can we sell and the cargo bags.
The mono rail skid and track are the huge standouts on this system. Having a track that has a full 2.5" deep paddle all the way out to the edges and moves so much more snow is a big plus. It will out climb all of the other systems on a deep day. This system just moves that much more snow. The mono center rail allows the track to bend and flex around the single center hyfax on the trail giving it the side to side roll you are after on the hard pack. Some riders even asked if this bike had motor mods because of the way the track moved the snow with such ease.
The chains are super easy to adjust and great to maintain. The only down fall is the track drive chain is kind of hard to get the chain lube to.
This system is value priced and delivers a good system for the money. It is HEAVY, the front ski could be better, and the rear suspension leaves a lot to be desired, but for the money it is in a position to give Timbersled Raw a run for their business in the cheep market. Camso's customer service and warranty department is great to deal with and parts are shipped fast to help the customers. Camso even published TSB's for corrections that were need for two different issues that were found in the field. As a dealer this was very proactive. All in all, it rides well, the track is great, and you can not get better performance in this price range. The Camso DTS 129 was $4799 for the 2017 season.
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