2017 Mototrax conclusion after riding

[Hawkster]

Ok, but wth is going on with the sled in your first pic?

That is a prime example of how awkward two skis are . You either have to dive in head first to make that transition or hang off of it like a fool monkey to compensate for the turd or do what most do and flail the crap out of it making it look as graceful as possible .

The big advantage about it though is after a day of Olympic jymnastics just sit back in the recliner and let the skis auto pilot you home .

Great picture

 

[J&L Snowhawk]

Bushing

Bushing rear slider
I also made limiter strap to try.

 

[Norma Stitz]

Bushing rear slider
I also made limiter strap to try.

Okay so my plastic bushings appear to have shattered and left the scene. I'm also on my second aluminum piece that slides inside those bushings. The first one snapped clean in half. So, maybe there's some serious forces in that guy.
I didn't receive any emails or updated bushings and my kit arrived 3 months late, so i had assumed that all the updates were done to my kit. I suppose I should call them and ask for that? Also, is that a metal on metal pivot now with a grease fitting? Not sure I like that solution. I've got a rubber bong stopper in there now to get it back on the snow for now. Maybe I need to reengineer that part a little.

More riding today and the kit did very well. One thing about my setup that was immediately apparent today was that it sits with seat height a LOT lower than my friends timbersled bike. Mine sits very low, almost too low. And his is very tall. Any disadvantage to being lower? Sure makes awkward transitions and oops moments a little less nervous. But, puts bike lower and dragging in deep snow on the sides a little.

The ski on friends timbersled is considerably shorter and seemed to have a lot lighter feeling, easier to steer. Mine feels heavy and lots of variable input to keep it where I want it. Like, it doesn't track on it's own, I have to fight a lot with it as it transitions over different snow packs and angles. It's not terrible and I'm getting used to it but it feels rather un bike like so I'm left to wonder if there is room for improvement there. I'd love to try some different skis on my bike to see a real side by side comparo.

The brakes are good in the kit, although I'm not sure the position is ideal. My disc guard has already taken some damage.

Also, why did you make he limiter strap?

 

[Grr]

Add some preload to the rear to raise the bike a bit. With it being that low you have a lot of force stored in the forks pushing that ski down making up for the soft rear

 

[Z-Man]

Lengthening your rear strut will raise your ride height and take pressure off the ski.

 

[J&L Snowhawk]

Bushing

Are you saying you broke out the aluminum bushing already?the plastic one was brittle. Not sure how aluminum one will do. I did strap because I have hp and need ski to touch ground

Okay so my plastic bushings appear to have shattered and left the scene. I'm also on my second aluminum piece that slides inside those bushings. The first one snapped clean in half. So, maybe there's some serious forces in that guy.
I didn't receive any emails or updated bushings and my kit arrived 3 months late, so i had assumed that all the updates were done to my kit. I suppose I should call them and ask for that? Also, is that a metal on metal pivot now with a grease fitting? Not sure I like that solution. I've got a rubber bong stopper in there now to get it back on the snow for now. Maybe I need to reengineer that part a little.

More riding today and the kit did very well. One thing about my setup that was immediately apparent today was that it sits with seat height a LOT lower than my friends timbersled bike. Mine sits very low, almost too low. And his is very tall. Any disadvantage to being lower? Sure makes awkward transitions and oops moments a little less nervous. But, puts bike lower and dragging in deep snow on the sides a little.

The ski on friends timbersled is considerably shorter and seemed to have a lot lighter feeling, easier to steer. Mine feels heavy and lots of variable input to keep it where I want it. Like, it doesn't track on it's own, I have to fight a lot with it as it transitions over different snow packs and angles. It's not terrible and I'm getting used to it but it feels rather un bike like so I'm left to wonder if there is room for improvement there. I'd love to try some different skis on my bike to see a real side by side comparo.

The brakes are good in the kit, although I'm not sure the position is ideal. My disc guard has already taken some damage.

Also, why did you make he limiter strap?

 

[Norma Stitz]

No I broke the post pivot piece that goes inside the bushings. It's about 6" long black aluminum with the bigger bushing pressed into it at the other end. They sent me a new one but no bushings metal or otherwise.

 

[J&L Snowhawk]

bushig

make sure you have the aluminum one like in my picture and not the red plastic one. call them and tell them what you need if you dont have it.

No I broke the post pivot piece that goes inside the bushings. It's about 6" long black aluminum with the bigger bushing pressed into it at the other end. They sent me a new one but no bushings metal or otherwise.

 

[Norma Stitz]

I had the red plastic ones but they disintegrated. I wrote them and email about it. Is the aluminum one a lined bearing with a metal housing?

 

[Jnorth]

Is there another snowmobile suspension that uses a triangulated slide bushing that was dependable and worked well?
Hopefully we will see something better than just changing the material of the bushing.

 

[Jnorth]

Also, since there are a number of us that aren't getting emails about updated parts. Maybe we could put together a complete list of things that need to be fixed.

 

[Norma Stitz]

Yes. They should also start a new Q&A thread for those of us who are too cheap to pay for the forum subscription. Also, who ever heard of a paid forum subscription? That's pretty balzy

 

[Z-Man]

Yes. They should also start a new Q&A thread for those of us who are too cheap to pay for the forum subscription. Also, who ever heard of a paid forum subscription? That's pretty balzy

It is a subscription to the magazine.

 

[Norma Stitz]

Oh. That's backwards marketing lol.

 

[M5-]

It is a subscription to the magazine.

Not entirely, without "Premium" you have restrictions on how much you can read. Its not the money, its the concept/principal for me, imagine if every forum pulled this it'd be worse than cablevision. If I got locked out so be it I wont be loosing any sleep over it.

M5

 

[glowa]

Yeti has plenty of problems as well. They just aren't resolved at the rate of a new vendor like motorax. Still a great product but I'm starting to worry there are some fundamental design issues

as a future owner I would love you to elaborate on "plenty of problems" and "fundamental design issues", thank you

 

[Timberview01]

Just a quick "for what it's worth" post as a current Moto Trax owner...

I snow checked an Enduro kit after going on a test ride with the Moto Trax crew last spring. Yes, they were significantly late on delivery of the kit, but the communication I received from them was thorough and constant. As a very young company, they are having some common growing pains when dealing with suppliers and shipping outlets. North Idaho didn't have ride-able snow until a few weeks ago, so I wasn't really sweating the late delivery. After a few kits hit the streets, I got emails regarding the track tension, checking the tightness of all fasteners, the updated upper idlers, and the slider bushing. When my kit arrived, the idlers were already switched and the aluminum bushing was in my fit kit with detailed instructions. The installation manual was clear and easy to follow. I checked all of the bolts with a torque wrench and everything was good to go. So far, I am very happy with the quality of the product that I received. No issues.

And as far as performance of the kit, I am very satisfied. Mine is mounted on a '15 WR450. I have ridden with two TS kits both on '15 RMZ 450's. One is a LT, the other is a ST both '16s with the convex 2.5" track. Both riders have one year on their kits. I was able to go the same speeds on the trail once I learned to stop fighting the ski, and in the powder I was able to go everywhere I wanted to go. Not going to lie and say there wasn't a difference between my 120" track and the 137" because there certainly is. That rider is over 200 pounds without riding gear, and I am about 175 ready to ride, so the difference isn't as big once we hit the deep stuff and I would say that my kit and the ST were very comparable as far as flotation and traction. Any advantage the TS kit had was more related to the added HP of the bike and experience of the rider versus capabilities of the kit itself.

After a few more rides, I hope to have a little more skill and maybe be able to make a more educated comparison between the kits.

 

[J-Tek]

I have a 17 yeti and have had the opportunity to ride dooman92's mototrax a couple times and I loved it !! It feels very much like riding a dirt bike , or as close as anyone has come so far !! For the price I think it's a awesome kit ! Liked it enough to order one for my kid !

 

[wwillf01]

What is the comparison with the yeti with the understanding you can get 2 of them for a yeti.

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[J-Tek]

What is the comparison with the yeti with the understanding you can get 2 of them for a yeti.

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My opinion, if you like the dirt bike feel the mototrax is a great kit , very fun to ride and very economical. Half the price of yeti !

My opinion again , if u like the " for a lack of a better term typically snow bike feel " the yeti has a awesome ride and suspension. It is also a work of art as how well everything is built/ machined !! You definitely pay a premium for the quality!

Hope I helped answer your questions , I like both!