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2016 axys RMK... beginning to see some details.

I can't help replying to Sledheader. A 14" wide track would be a major paradigm shift but it might be a hard sell. It might work fine in the application but it will turn some potential buyers off. I would rather see a track that has the flexible edges like the Doo. Regardless of what anyone says, that concept works pretty well. I also work with engineers every day (35 years) and I highly respect them. However, they can be wrong and the math and theory doesn't always work in the application. I am reminded of a young lady engineer who told me that a mountain bike with rear suspension was not superior to one with rear suspension in climbing applications over uneven ground. She was very wrong but I couldn't convince her of that. After several years, she was riding a full suspension bike. She was stubborn and never admitted her error other than with her switch to a full suspension bike. I hope that they don't go to a 14" track and I hope they do incorporate a flexible edge track which gives you the best of both worlds.

I am in no way saying engineers are always right, and I am DEFINITELY not always right! :lol:

Only thing I was irritated about was "My poor opinion". So I backed it up with the reasoning behind my opinion and now I'm over it.

Maybe it will be a 14" or a 13 or hell, even a 12. But I highly doubt it for my reasons above. We shall all see in T minus 8 hours 47 minutes:help:
 
The ho 800 axys motor will not pull with a cat or doo on flatland. So I don't see this motor as an option to up one on the competition. I have had one apart and comparing it to the old motor there is not enough changes for more than maybe 10 to 12 more horsepower. The case is to small to flow enough air this realy shows at elevation. I feel this is what we are going to get this year though. New epa regs in 17 so we might see a direct injection on this motor. It's hard to drop weight and make motor larger in same sentence. Low snow this year is not helping sales. Tends to put brakes on bringing new tech to production. I wish polaris would give us a sled you could only snowcheck with like 2000$ down so not many would get backed out of to flood the market.
 
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:lol: I just had to rub it in. Man that thing looks SWEET!!!! I gotta go get some privacy right before I fill out my check. Only question is WHICH dealer to go to!!

Haha, I just was hoping for something a little out of the box technology! But this will do for now, maybe next year a xtreme domination style snowmobile ; )
Can't wait for more pics!
 
Who knows, you could be right on what's in the box!!

I personally will be disappointed if it isn't offered in a 163
 
Who knows, you could be right on what's in the box!!

I personally will be disappointed if it isn't offered in a 163

Ya I just feel our sport is split in 2 now days. One side trail/performance and other side mountain/backcountry
So I'm hoping for the day the manufacturers see this and make specific style sleds for each side. But I also understand the cost and business aspect of this industry. Technology and engineers are not cheap ; ) but what a sled it would be if they focused solely on mountain rider needs and wants and made like "mountain horse" has described a xtreme domination pro rmk!
 
Few observations:

1. Still no powder coated tunnel or rails and suspension parts? Snow doesn't stick to Axys?
2. Track is an improvement but will it hang with the 3"?
3. Front suspension appears to be improvement in durability.
4. If there was as I have been told, no problem with Polaris piston and ring longevity, why is there a new piston with grooves to help lubricate?
5. The other manufactures better come with something more than BNG if they want their snow check party's to be any more than a pity party.

Kudos to Polaris thus far.
 
Few observations:

1. Still no powder coated tunnel or rails and suspension parts? Snow doesn't stick to Axys? I agree and hope this is an option for snow check
2. Track is an improvement but will it hang with the 3"? I've never been around a 3" track but how do we know they are the end all be all? Personally I would have liked to see 3" as well, but maybe it doesn't do well on the axys chassis
3. Front suspension appears to be improvement in durability. Very glad to see this. Plus taller spindles for more clearance. I think this will be a winning front end
4. If there was as I have been told, no problem with Polaris piston and ring longevity, why is there a new piston with grooves to help lubricate? I think Polaris is well aware of their recent engine troubles, which is the reason for the HO motor. Personally I've been following the axys threads this year and despite some electrical issues, the engine seems to be doing very good
5. The other manufactures better come with something more than BNG if they want their snow check party's to be any more than a pity party.Agree, I think this sled will handle better than anything seen to date

Kudos to Polaris thus far.

So as far as people's complaints about polaris reliability

Engine: New 800 HO which has proven reliable thus far (fingers crossed)

Bonded A arms: SOLVED

weak bumpers: still appear to be the same

Weak tunnel: Still appears to be the same

Quick Drive: Still appears to be the same

One more thing I REALLY wish I would have seen in the 2016 is the brakes being put on the driveshaft. It scares me where I guy could be with this thing when the quickdrive belt breaks...Again also disappointed in only a 155, but I feel like there will be that option released later. Polaris just wanted to let everybody know the new chassis was here!

Edit: The lighter track will DEFINITELY make you feel the power of the new 800 HO. This system should get it to the snow VERY well IMO. Any time you can reduce rotating mass, that's a good thing! If you don't believe me, do back to back runs in your pickup with 35" MT's and then 33" At's. HUGE difference
 
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2. Different tracks for different snow, conditions and styles. I'd say there is room for a 3" track if you want it. Not sure this sled needs it. If you are getting a 155" sled, you are probably boondocking more than you are hill climbing. This new track is lighter and has more tread. This sled gets up on the snow quickly, will a 3" track cause it to trench or get up even faster? How will the weight change all of that?

4. New motor, new emissions standards. Nothing wrong with a manufacture improving their product.
 
The ho 800 axys motor will not pull with a cat or doo on flatland. So I don't see this motor as an option to up one on the competition. I have had one apart and comparing it to the old motor there is not enough changes for more than maybe 10 to 12 more horsepower. The case is to small to flow enough air this realy shows at elevation. I feel this is what we are going to get this year though. New epa regs in 17 so we might see a direct injection on this motor. It's hard to drop weight and make motor larger in same sentence. Low snow this year is not helping sales. Tends to put brakes on bringing new tech to production. I wish polaris would give us a sled you could only snowcheck with like 2000$ down so not many would get backed out of to flood the market.

What sleds have you tested it against? I have mine and a few other buddies have short track 800's. They are faster than all of our other buddies ski doo's and cat 800's by a few sled lengths for sure. I think you got your facts wrong on this motor!
Its a ripper witha lot mmore bottom end snap, and everyone should be excited to get one of these In there sled if they like hp!
 
Rails look weak.... the 2.7 comes with the f-bomb mod. Good to see the addressed the clearance issues. Be interesting to see how it performs with the new track and 15 more hp. Ill be waiting a year to use my golden ticket...
 
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